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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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January 21 | 2 | 1 |
January 27 | 1 | |
January 31 | 1 | 1 |
February 1 | 1 | |
February 4 | 2 | 1 |
February 5 | 4 | |
February 11 | 1 | |
February 12 | 2 | |
February 13 | 4 | |
February 14 | 1 | |
February 15 | 2 | |
February 16 | 1 | |
February 18 | 1 | |
February 19 | 1 | |
February 20 | 1 | |
February 21 | 1 | |
February 23 | 1 | |
February 24 | 3 | 3 |
February 25 | 5 | 2 |
February 26 | 4 | 4 |
February 27 | 4 | 3 |
February 28 | 3 | 3 |
March 1 | 8 | 8 |
March 2 | 5 | 4 |
March 3 | 5 | 5 |
March 4 | 4 | 4 |
March 5 | 2 | 2 |
March 6 | 5 | 5 |
March 7 | 12 | 9 |
March 8 | 5 | 5 |
March 9 | 16 | 13 |
March 10 | 12 | 9 |
March 11 | 7 | 6 |
March 12 | 11 | 8 |
March 13 | 10 | 5 |
March 14 | 7 | 3 |
March 15 | 5 | 2 |
March 16 | 8 | 3 |
March 17 | 2 | 2 |
March 18 | 2 | |
March 19 | 9 | 4 |
March 20 | 2 | 1 |
March 21 | ||
Total | 183 | 116 |
Last updated 00:13, 21 March 2025 UTC Current time is 00:36, 21 March 2025 UTC [refresh] |
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Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
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Advanced procedures
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on January 21
[edit]Cornelius Pass Road
- ... that Cornelius Pass Road, a major arterial connecting the suburbs of Portland, Oregon, was built in the late 19th century ?
- Reviewed:
TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 16:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC).
passing ALT1.The article was nom the day after promotion to GA status. Article is obvs long enough, neutral and well-sourced. The hook is cited in the article (fn 14) and well within length at only 123 chars. There are no close paraphrasing issues (names, titles and quotes throw up the usual false positives). Hook is probably interesting, as while it's just a road, it's an old road. QPQ not required, lucky you. GTG. Serial (speculates here) 19:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Can a new hook be suggested? Even the reviewer said that the hook is "probably interesting". SL93 (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that in 2006 of the 11,000 vehicles who used the Cornelius Pass Road daily, 1,500 were tractor-trailers?https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-oregonian-family-wants-more-than-roa/163003300/ Lajmmoore (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid. It doesn't tell me why that might be unusual.--Launchballer 09:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Aboutmovies and TheTechie: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Cornelius Pass Road was built by Thomas R. Cornelius, yet the road does not connect to Cornelius, Oregon, which was named after Thomas R. Cornelius? How about that? Aboutmovies (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid.--Launchballer 13:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not the nom or otherwise associated with the article, but some ideas:
- that mudslides caused temporary one-way traffic on Cornelius Pass Road on three seperate occasions?
- that tech company Intel funded part of Cornelius Pass Road?
- Rusalkii (talk) 18:17, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Despite the Good Article status, this appears to just be a typical road. No matter how many times a mudslide happens on a road, it isn't interesting. Roads always need funding so the next hook isn't interesting as well. SL93 (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I could see the Intel hook working, as Intel is a major company, and I wasn't aware that private companies funded roads like this. Tenpop421 (talk) 01:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- The Intel angle is probably the best angle, the others are rather mundane. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:33, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I could see the Intel hook working, as Intel is a major company, and I wasn't aware that private companies funded roads like this. Tenpop421 (talk) 01:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Despite the Good Article status, this appears to just be a typical road. No matter how many times a mudslide happens on a road, it isn't interesting. Roads always need funding so the next hook isn't interesting as well. SL93 (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid.--Launchballer 13:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Cornelius Pass Road was built by Thomas R. Cornelius, yet the road does not connect to Cornelius, Oregon, which was named after Thomas R. Cornelius? How about that? Aboutmovies (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Aboutmovies and TheTechie: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid. It doesn't tell me why that might be unusual.--Launchballer 09:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that in 2006 of the 11,000 vehicles who used the Cornelius Pass Road daily, 1,500 were tractor-trailers?https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-oregonian-family-wants-more-than-roa/163003300/ Lajmmoore (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- @TheTechie, Rusalkii, SL93, and Tenpop421: I was checking the sources and I couldn't see where exactly is it stated that Intel funded the Cornelius Pass Road. I can see they funded an interchange and other roads, but I can't seem to see if it was the Cornelius Pass Road they specifically funded. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, I was just pulling from the article, but let's see. [1] has "The city, county, state, and Intel are going to ... help pay for ... a redesign of the interchange at US 26 and Cornelius Pass Road". I'm not sure if one can say that they funded part the road, but I don't think the hook will suffer from rephrasing to say that they helped fund an interchange on (of? I am not sure how the grammar works here exactly) the road. (And re: interestingess, I definitely went "huh!" when I read that fact in the article and would probably click it on the main page, private companies in the US funding roads strikes me as pretty surprising though perhaps I am simply poorly informed) Rusalkii (talk) 19:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 27
[edit]Aliko Dangote
... that Aliko Dangote became the first billionaire in Nigeria in 2007?Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/01/billionaire-ranking-dangote-reclaims-top-position-on-forbes-africas-list/- Reviewed:
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC).
This is an engaging biographical piece. The article is free from any copyright issues, and all sections are properly referenced. The hook is included, and the source aligns with the details provided in the nomination. Image properly licensed including the ones featured in the article. Everything appears to be in order. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:39, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SafariScribe and Toadboy123: There is one citation tag in the article that needs to be resolved before the article can be featured on the main page. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle
DoneSafari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
@SafariScribe and Toadboy123: We need a different hook. The "first" hooks are generally frowned upon at DYK and come under extra scrutiny and could easily be taken down mid-way through their run on the main page if they are contested (if they even make it that far in the process). In this case it's not too hard to find another Nigerian who is often called the first black billionaire in Africa, namely Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu. See for example this Forbes Africa article; there are many other articles that say similar. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
...that Aliko Dangote was the richest man in Africa in 2024?source
- Comment. @SafariScribe: Not according to List of Africans by net worth. (You forgot to sign your new proposed hook.) Cielquiparle (talk) 05:28, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
Still needs a new hook, or some work to prove that the claim in ALT1 above is true. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 is contradicted by this BBC article: SA billionaire overtakes Dangote as Africa’s richest man Rjjiii (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Aliko Dangote is the owner of the largest oil refinery in Africa? Source:https://theconversation.com/dangote-launches-africas-biggest-oil-refinery-4-ways-it-will-affect-nigeria-205685 Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping: Rjjiii, Cielquiparle, and Toadboy123. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relabeled as ALT2 so there is no confusion. Struck ALT1 per above discussion. @SafariScribe: ALT2 is going in a promising direction – it could be great, even, as it touches on one of Dangote's most important accomplishments. But there are a couple of problems to resolve: 1) The hook doesn't say what kind of refinery it is...so on that grounds alone it should be rejected. You need to make it more specific: What kind of refinery did you mean? Dangote himself owns several types of refineries, including the largest sugar refinery in sub-Saharan Africa. 2) The article needs to explain more about Dangote's role in building the oil refinery. There are many reliable sources about his role and his vision and why the refinery is important to the Nigerian economy. Right now the article is making it sound like he just happened to become the owner. No, without Dangote himself we would not have Africa's largest oil refinery in the first place. Do a bit more reading on this and explain it better in the article, even if it's just a few sentences, and cite additional sources to do it justice; you can do it while remaining completely factual and not promotional. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:56, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Aliko Dangote was the first non-government official to be awarded the Grand Commander of the Order of the Niger, Nigeria's second highest honour? Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/why-we-offered-gcon-to-dangote-jonathan/
- Courtesy ping: Rjjiii, Cielquiparle, and Toadboy123; I found this hook interesting than others.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. Should be all good to go now then. Toadboy123 (talk) 10:06, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping: Rjjiii, Cielquiparle, and Toadboy123; I found this hook interesting than others.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 1
[edit]List of Seattle Sounders FC draft picks
- ... that Seattle Sounders FC have traded away all their first-round picks in several drafts? Source: SoundersFC.com
- Reviewed: Sony PVM-4300
SounderBruce 21:59, 6 February 2025 (UTC).
New enough. Long enough. Article sourcing is fine. Article is presentable. Only one image in the article, which has an appropriate license. QPQ is done. However the hook's source is a primary source. Additionally, as it was published eight years ago, it only supports two first-round draft picks as having been traded away, not covering the current hook wording of 'several'. Otherwise the hook is short enough and interesting. Could we get a secondary, and ideally more recent source to cover the hook? C679 08:44, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I could not find a more recent source beyond what the database covers. SounderBruce 06:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce: in that case please propose a different hook. C679 07:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think the source's age or status as a primary source (though in this case, it's more of a "news" piece that is hosted by the team website) disqualifies it from use at DYK. It certainly does not disqualify it from use at FLC, among other content review processes. SounderBruce 07:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
I looked again at the article and there's a 2024 source outlining players going to each club per draft year. That is fine. My previous comments were on the URL provided within this nomination. C679 08:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think the source's age or status as a primary source (though in this case, it's more of a "news" piece that is hosted by the team website) disqualifies it from use at DYK. It certainly does not disqualify it from use at FLC, among other content review processes. SounderBruce 07:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce: in that case please propose a different hook. C679 07:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I could not find a more recent source beyond what the database covers. SounderBruce 06:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
@SounderBruce, Cloudz679, SL93, AirshipJungleman, and Fram: I've removed this from queue 5 and reopening the nom per issue raised at WP:ERRRORS (here). It seems the hook may not be correct, and also it doesn't meet the interesting to a broad audience criterion, many teams trade away some of their picks I believe, that's fairly standard. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 09:20, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
To be honest, after looking at the article, there doesn't seem to be anything usable that would be interesting to non-specialist audiences, or arguably even to soccer fans. It's either that, or information mentioned would largely apply to all MLS clubs and not just the Sounders (in fact, at least 1/3rd of the prose section, if not more, actually have to do more with MLS itself than the Sounders specifically!) As such, unfortunately I am marking the nomination for closure due to the lack of a possible hook. Pinging SounderBruce to inform them of the bad news. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 4
[edit]Margaret (song)
- ... that the song "Margaret" is named after actress Margaret Qualley (pictured)?
** ALT1: ... that the song "Margaret" was the last song written for Lana Del Rey's ninth studio album? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/listen-to-lana-del-reys-sprawling-new-single-a-and-w-3398447
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raging Bull (roller coaster)
- Comment: Doesn't have to have a picture.
jolielover♥talk 06:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I don't see how ALT1 is interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover and Narutolovehinata5: what about this:
ALT2: ... that "Margaret" is a love ballad about how Jack Antonoff and Margaret Qualley (pictured) first met?- @Viriditas: yes, I like that. jolielover♥talk 02:24, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover and Narutolovehinata5: what about this:
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough; well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. Objections were raised against ALT1 by Narutolovehinata5, leaving ALT0. I'm not a big fan of ALT0, so I added ALT2. I can't approve my own hook, so I'm asking for a second opinion. I think there's also opportunities for new hooks if nobody likes ALT0 or ALT2. ALT1 struck. Viriditas (talk) 03:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: actually, they objected against ALT1, not ALT0. The hook that it was the last song written for the album. Which I have to admit is boring. jolielover♥talk 03:35, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Typos fixed. Viriditas (talk) 03:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Happy to pass ALT2 as interesting, cited, and verified by this Rolling Stone article. The image probably can't run, per
Try to avoid images that divert readers from the bolded article into a side article
in WP:DYKIMG. Tenpop421 (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Owing to a discussion at WT:DYK regarding the interestingness of the promoted hook (ALT2), I've gone ahead and pulled this hook from prep. The following hooks were also proposed in the discussion:
- ALT3: ...that Margaret Qualley had to confirm Lana Del Rey did not leak her wedding date on a song?
- ALT4: ...that there was speculation Lana Del Rey had leaked a celebrity couples' wedding date on a song?
- Normally I would have just swapped it out with one of the above, but I have reservations about either hook meeting WP:DYKHOOKBLP, so I brought the nom back to unapproved for more discussion. Another alternative hook about the song reaching Silver in the UK was also proposed but I have not included it here as it probably does not meet WP:DYKINT.
- A possible third option could be a reworded version of ALT2 that largely keeps the wording but specifies who Antonoff and Qualley are, for the benefit of readers unfamiliar with them. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:01, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 5
[edit]Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade
- ... that Dallas Mavericks fans held a mock funeral with a coffin for Luka Dončić in response to him being traded?
- Source: Mavericks fans widely panned the trade. After the news broke, a group of fans gathered outside of the American Airlines Center to protest the trade; some fans called for Harrison to be fired, and others brought a coffin to stage a mock funeral.[1]
- ALT1: ... that the Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade is the first time in NBA history that two reigning All-NBA Team players have been traded for each other in midseason?Source: According to the Elias Sports Bureau (via ESPN), the trade was "the first time that two reigning All-NBA players have been traded for each other midseason."[2]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Preliminary discussion at Talk:Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade#DYK?. Courtesy ping @Namelessposter: in case you wanted to add alt-hooks. Left guide (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Left guide (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ Thompson, Scott (February 3, 2025). "Disgruntled Mavericks fans protest Luka Doncic trade with symbolic funeral outside team's arena". foxnews.com.
- ^ McMenamin, Dave (February 2, 2025). "Luka to Lakers, Davis to Mavs in stunning trade". ESPN.com. Archived from the original on February 5, 2025. Retrieved February 5, 2025.
This article, moved from draftspace on 5 Feb, is new enough and long enough. However, the article contains a lot of quotes from Twitter, which is a user-generated source, and so unreliable and usually WP:UNDUE (see WP:RSPTWITTER). @Left guide: the Twitter sources must be replaced with reliable coverage (removing the info if there is no reliable coverage). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 and Left guide: I took out the Twitter cites. Namelessposter (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, Namelessposter! The article is well-sourced now. No QPQ needed. The first hook is my favourite. It is in the article, cited, and the citation checks out. The image probably can't run, as it would draw more attention to the Dončić article than the trade article (see WP:DYKIMG). Once the request for a name change is closed, this will be good to go. (@Namelessposter:, @Left guide: feel free to ping me once it is). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:05, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: Ok, thanks for reviewing. I just removed the image and its mention to comply with the standards. One more thing, should the words "basketball player" be added to the hook immediately before Doncic's name? It might be a good way to introduce the topic to the average reader. Left guide (talk) 02:26, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 and Left guide: I took out the Twitter cites. Namelessposter (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Left guide: It's good to leave some things to curiosity in a DYK hook. The hook has enough that a reader can understand it (at least, one who knows what a sports trade is), and the rest can be discovered by clicking the article, which is what we want to incentivise. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:14, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: Is this nomination approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 02:44, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: As above, we are waiting for a page move to be resolved. Tenpop421 (talk) 10:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Barbara Kurdej-Szatan
- ... that actress Barbara Kurdej-Szatan became famous for playing in mobile phone commercials?
- Source: https://www.press.pl/tresc/68286,blondynka-z-reklamy_-tak-barbara-kurdej-szatan-zaczynala-w-play
- Reviewed:
Artemis Andromeda (talk) 16:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC).
- Alt1: ... that this actress became famous from appearing in mobile phone commercials? Artemis Andromeda (talk) 11:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no issues in English, but this is taken on good faith since it is translated from the Polish language. I was unable to complete multiple spot checks and verification due to different reasons. In one case, the links were bad. When I tried to fix them (Encyclopedia of Polish Theatre as only one example), I could not track them down to complete the spot check. Some of the content has borderline BLP issues, such as the claims about the border crisis and Lyme disease. I could not track down the claim for the latter, and it is entirely unclear if the subject was treated for Lyme disease, at which point it refers to something in the past and the date needs to be mentioned, or if she still has symptoms, in which case it needs to be modified to say that she has prolonged symptoms from Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome. (PTLDS). This is only one of many issues. I could not verify the hooks, even though I was able to read the links in translation. From what I can tell, she was notable before the mobile advertising campaign based on what I read, so the idea of what "famous" means is somewhat ambiguous. I think it's safe to assume that the mobile campaign increased her exposure, so it's not a stretch to say that's what made her famous, but I didn't see that in the sources; maybe I missed it. Finally, there's the overall issue of WP:DYKCOMPLETE in the general sense. There's still grammar issues that need to be resolved, and even though you have a current image in the infobox, it's a terrible image of the subject (mic covering her lower face, strained look) and there are dozens of great images of her, although they are much older, on Commons. Some of what I've written here might be incorrect or mistaken, and I acknowledge that, but some of it is also easy to substantiate. Given all these issues, I would suggest the nominator take a moment to address them and try to cleanup the article. Viriditas (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for the insights. And to answer to a few of your points. About the links, I think Encyklopedia teatru works fine now, I will later go and chceck if the rest are ok. About the lyme disease, I will admit that I simply don't have much of medical knowledge and don't usually know what to write about such topics, and I just really copied what Polish article said. I found a few articles talking about it (1, 2, 3. She suffered it in 2016 (and maybe in 2017 as well?), and it seems that it's mentioned in media, because she talked about her experience, and also becouse it seems she was a victim of medical malpractice (physician using wrong method criticised by medical experts, and in general making mistakes in her diagnosis and treatment). I actually wonder if I should just remove it, or actually expand it, and maybe mention all the stuff about issues with treatment. I thought the sources said that she is famous becouse of this comercials. I might go and look for additional sources about this specific topic later. But to kinda explain it, while I think article makes her look more famous in retrospect by just writing down all the stuff she did up to that point, she wasn't actually famous back then, and was mostly juat a regular person still trying to 'break out' as I think saying goes. For example, while I listed a few to shows she appeared in, it were mostly just background roles, sometimes with small dialogue. She, at least in my opinion, indeed became famous and recognizable nation-wide thanks to those comercials, since they were a huge success overall. I would even argue, that's what really propelled her career. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, I still think she's mostly still known primarily from those comercials to an average viewer. Also, about the picture, I personally thought she looked nice in the one currently used in the infobox. But I could change it to an older picture, though I think it was less flattering (idk if that matters to be honest though). Sincerely, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't mind if you leave the current image. This could be a cultural difference. In my culture that kind of image may be perceived differently. I've read elsewhere that photos of people in Eastern Europe that show them looking serious without a smile are preferred. As for Lyme disease, the article says she has it. But you say she has been treated for it, and if so, maybe expand upon it. Celebrities can often do a lot to bring attention to public health issues, so there is educational value there for the reader. It's also the case that climate change and other factors are increasing the prevalence of the disease around the world, so it's a timely issue. Comparing this version to the Polish wiki, I find that the hook is supposedly cited to Jak to się stało?, an interview between Bober and Kurdej-Szatan. However, you have it listed as published in 2021, when it was published in 2022. Perhaps the interview took place in 2021. Also, this is listed by EAN 978-83-96-1010-2-0. There's still issues with the article. I notice that Polish wiki also uses a better image in the infobox, which is current. Viriditas (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for the insights. And to answer to a few of your points. About the links, I think Encyklopedia teatru works fine now, I will later go and chceck if the rest are ok. About the lyme disease, I will admit that I simply don't have much of medical knowledge and don't usually know what to write about such topics, and I just really copied what Polish article said. I found a few articles talking about it (1, 2, 3. She suffered it in 2016 (and maybe in 2017 as well?), and it seems that it's mentioned in media, because she talked about her experience, and also becouse it seems she was a victim of medical malpractice (physician using wrong method criticised by medical experts, and in general making mistakes in her diagnosis and treatment). I actually wonder if I should just remove it, or actually expand it, and maybe mention all the stuff about issues with treatment. I thought the sources said that she is famous becouse of this comercials. I might go and look for additional sources about this specific topic later. But to kinda explain it, while I think article makes her look more famous in retrospect by just writing down all the stuff she did up to that point, she wasn't actually famous back then, and was mostly juat a regular person still trying to 'break out' as I think saying goes. For example, while I listed a few to shows she appeared in, it were mostly just background roles, sometimes with small dialogue. She, at least in my opinion, indeed became famous and recognizable nation-wide thanks to those comercials, since they were a huge success overall. I would even argue, that's what really propelled her career. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, I still think she's mostly still known primarily from those comercials to an average viewer. Also, about the picture, I personally thought she looked nice in the one currently used in the infobox. But I could change it to an older picture, though I think it was less flattering (idk if that matters to be honest though). Sincerely, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Artemis Andromeda: I see you have been very active on wiki but have abandoned this review. Do you believe the hook and current version of the article (which you have not edited in response to my concerns) are ready to go? Can you verify that the hook is appropriately sourced? I don't see how any outstanding issues have been resolved. Viriditas (talk) 03:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Hi. I'm terribly sorry. Being honest, I have completely forgotten about this article and the nomination. If you want, I could still try working on it and fixing the issues this week.Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Artemis Andromeda: As I said before, the article on the Polish Wikipedia is in good shape. All you would need to do is cross-reference the material and make sure it is cited and accurate. And make the changes we discussed. I don’t think it would take you more than 30 minutes. And add a source to the hook that supports it. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Artemis Andromeda: Are the above issues resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:43, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Japanese Girls Never Die
- ... that the film Japanese Girls Never Die was praised by critics for its critique on sexism in Japanese work culture?
- Source: The Japan Times, Variety, The A.V. Club
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Create (song)
- Comment: I don't know how to phrase this hook it. Also, I would like this to be put upon approval on SOHA for the International Women's Day.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
- See comment
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: No issues with eligibility, hook is fine and sourced even if it's not the most interesting. The double digit percentages on Earwig are from review quotes/proper nouns. The film has been released, so the premise section should be a fully-fledged plot section. There are also multiple grammatical errors in the article, including run-on sentences. The flow of the article is also pretty bad (e.g. 12/19 of the non-lead/plot/cast sentences begin with "The film" or slight variations such as "The film's", with 4/7 of the remainder being about reviews that all go "X of Y said Z". Release and marketing are both short and should probably be combined in some way per MOS:FILM. There are serious, but not insurmountable presentation issues that need to be addressed before approval. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- I've done some preliminary cleanup work. Also, in the hook, "on" should probably be replaced by "of".
- ALT1: ... that the film Japanese Girls Never Die was praised by critics for its critique of sexism in Japanese work culture? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:46, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: Thanks for reviewing, I fix some of the issues you pointed out, tell me if there's more, also, I'm slighly confused with story's phasing, so It hard to make a plot summary but I'll try my best. Also, your suggested hook is much better. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Just ping me when the plot summary is written and I'll take another look. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight:, I had written the plot. I don't know how to write one so this might be a sloppy one and I hope you can help me fix it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- For one, it's more than 700 words, which is the limit recommended at MOS:FILMPLOT. It should use the narrative present tense (WP:PLOTPRESENT). There's so many tense flips here, I'm not sure what the narrative format of this film even is, and without watching the film, can't really fix the issues. I would recommend reviewing the two pages I linked and rewriting the plot summary. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: I done what you are talking about and lower the word count to around 670. Also, as the movie, switches between two people. I retain some of the past tense when character is talking about what happen in the past. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The plot section (or rather, plot paragraph!) is still very poor with lots of typos (e.g. Masabu/Manabu? Haruka?) and grammatical mistakes and what seem like many prima facie irrelevant details (e.g. exact salaries, exact punishment for vandalism) while lots of essential details are omitted, including but not limited to:
- What job does Haruko have?
- What exactly is Yukio's relationship to the other characters?
- What Yukio's gender is (only revealed after the third namedrop)?
- Why should Aina and Yukio remember Manabu from just seeing him?
- How much time is passing between events? Does the film take place over two days or more?
- Why does Haroko have a missing person poster?
- Was Aina using a fake identity?
- From what I can tell the movie seems to follow two main characters (Haruko and Aina) in a linear manner and there is some sort of reveal about the missing posters at the end, which is not explained very well Having multiple protagonists/storylines is a very common feature of movies, so perhaps you can take a look at a film that you have seen from Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Films and see how their plot section is written and try to emulate it here. Given that the plot section is in this state, it is probably necessary to have brief descriptions of the characters in the Cast section as well, which would alleviate some of the issues. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:08, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: Sorry for the late reply, the movie does not seems state how much time has passed each scene, as even the reviews by users on Eiga.com talks about how confusing the story is. There is a lot of details was missing in the movie. this is the pirated version of the movie on dailymotion (I don't think there is a english platform where this can watched legally) if you want to watch it for yourself.
- The plot section (or rather, plot paragraph!) is still very poor with lots of typos (e.g. Masabu/Manabu? Haruka?) and grammatical mistakes and what seem like many prima facie irrelevant details (e.g. exact salaries, exact punishment for vandalism) while lots of essential details are omitted, including but not limited to:
- @Patar knight: I done what you are talking about and lower the word count to around 670. Also, as the movie, switches between two people. I retain some of the past tense when character is talking about what happen in the past. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- For one, it's more than 700 words, which is the limit recommended at MOS:FILMPLOT. It should use the narrative present tense (WP:PLOTPRESENT). There's so many tense flips here, I'm not sure what the narrative format of this film even is, and without watching the film, can't really fix the issues. I would recommend reviewing the two pages I linked and rewriting the plot summary. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight:, I had written the plot. I don't know how to write one so this might be a sloppy one and I hope you can help me fix it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Just ping me when the plot summary is written and I'll take another look. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: Thanks for reviewing, I fix some of the issues you pointed out, tell me if there's more, also, I'm slighly confused with story's phasing, so It hard to make a plot summary but I'll try my best. Also, your suggested hook is much better. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
I don't think I can answer most of the questions above, but I have fixed most of the issues I can fixed. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: The prep set for International Women's Day is now open, please return to this nomination when you can.--Launchballer 13:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- I took a brief look at the pirated film version to try and get a grasp on the plot. It seems pretty clear that the two main plotlines are (mostly?) happening at different times since Haruko is obviously not missing yet in her scenes while the Aina plotline resolves around creating art around Haruko's missing poster (which has a 2015 date) until apparently near the end, when Haruko shows up with a child. I would suggest the plot be rewritten in a way similar to The Godfather Part II which also follows two different timelines. Also, since we have access to the film credits, a fuller cast section can be written in accordance with MOS:FILMCAST (e.g. multiple roles currently described in the plot do not have listed actors in the cast section, and one actor in that section has a role not named in the plot). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: I don't know if it helps, but I had a go at reordering the Plot section myself. I got hold of a cast list from Themoviedb and added it as an invisible comment - @Miminity:, I don't speak Japanese, so please verify it and publish it.--Launchballer 07:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for the help, Yes it is true base (though I tweak a little bit) on this Eiga.com Source, though do I have to source it or leave it as it is. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- That depends. If you got it from the film, you can leave it unsourced; if you got it from somewhere else, you really should cite that. Ball's in Patar knight's court.--Launchballer 13:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
Done Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: There is a date request for the next set to be queued. What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 16:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm willing to AGF that the credits are correct, but the plot summary is still a mess with no delineation between the two timelines. Last week, I suggested following the format of The Godfather Part II, which still has not been done. That article has a short out of universe blurb at the top to introduce the two timelines, a subsection for the past with Vito Corleone and followed by a subsection for the present with Michael Corleone, and then a short bit at the end where they include the ending flashback, which for this would probably just be the ending where they apparently tie up the timelines. Another example of this plot summary structure is Memento, which also separates out the two different timelines until the unifying ending segment. I would rather not have to watch an 1h40m film myself as the reviewer, so I would prefer if the original nominator did that. If there's major push to get a special queue for International Women's Day (right now there's only one entry in the holding area), I can see if I have time later this week (please ping me if that's the case). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: There is a date request for the next set to be queued. What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 16:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
- That depends. If you got it from the film, you can leave it unsourced; if you got it from somewhere else, you really should cite that. Ball's in Patar knight's court.--Launchballer 13:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for the help, Yes it is true base (though I tweak a little bit) on this Eiga.com Source, though do I have to source it or leave it as it is. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Patar knight: I don't know if it helps, but I had a go at reordering the Plot section myself. I got hold of a cast list from Themoviedb and added it as an invisible comment - @Miminity:, I don't speak Japanese, so please verify it and publish it.--Launchballer 07:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I took a brief look at the pirated film version to try and get a grasp on the plot. It seems pretty clear that the two main plotlines are (mostly?) happening at different times since Haruko is obviously not missing yet in her scenes while the Aina plotline resolves around creating art around Haruko's missing poster (which has a 2015 date) until apparently near the end, when Haruko shows up with a child. I would suggest the plot be rewritten in a way similar to The Godfather Part II which also follows two different timelines. Also, since we have access to the film credits, a fuller cast section can be written in accordance with MOS:FILMCAST (e.g. multiple roles currently described in the plot do not have listed actors in the cast section, and one actor in that section has a role not named in the plot). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- The set I had in mind is currently in queue 7, but it may have to go back. I added a couple of section headers and an introductory sentence.--Launchballer 20:51, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Now prep 3, but I also added a short "Ending" subsection, so this should be done.--Launchballer 12:40, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- For context, I watched the first 15 min. to get a grasp of the film. The film actually opens with a montage and the scene with the mother seemed very unimportant, which appears to be correct given that she's not mentioned again in the plot summary. The description of Haruko going to Yuji's place for the first time is entirely overly detailed (he waits for her outside and lets her in, which is the actual focus of the scene) There are still all kinds of grammatical mistakes and unexplained characters (e.g. "A man told him that Hitomi" has an unexplained man and "him" should probably be "her"?). I don't have a lot of confidence in the fidelity of the plot. I'll make some changes based on what I watched, but I'm not sure its read for DYK. It also looks like queues are not being switched to doubles, so perhaps this can wait? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Made some fixes based on the first 15 min and did my best to copyedit some of the remaining plot section based on the reviews I read and what I did watch. It is still not up to par, with highly confusing statements such as
Manabu is found in a car by a police beaten up; Yukio and Aina argue in the car about whether they are why
. What are they arguing about? Were Yukio and Aina not found by police even though they are ostensibly in the same car? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:17, 6 March 2025 (UTC)- I corrected that statement as I introduced it (I meant 'why he was beaten up' and those the prose improved for not having 'beaten up' twice.) I can't help you with text-to-source integrity.--Launchballer 11:26, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Made some fixes based on the first 15 min and did my best to copyedit some of the remaining plot section based on the reviews I read and what I did watch. It is still not up to par, with highly confusing statements such as
- For context, I watched the first 15 min. to get a grasp of the film. The film actually opens with a montage and the scene with the mother seemed very unimportant, which appears to be correct given that she's not mentioned again in the plot summary. The description of Haruko going to Yuji's place for the first time is entirely overly detailed (he waits for her outside and lets her in, which is the actual focus of the scene) There are still all kinds of grammatical mistakes and unexplained characters (e.g. "A man told him that Hitomi" has an unexplained man and "him" should probably be "her"?). I don't have a lot of confidence in the fidelity of the plot. I'll make some changes based on what I watched, but I'm not sure its read for DYK. It also looks like queues are not being switched to doubles, so perhaps this can wait? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Now prep 3, but I also added a short "Ending" subsection, so this should be done.--Launchballer 12:40, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
2023 Selma tornado
- ... that Selma, Alabama, known for the 1965 Civil Rights marches that were attended by Martin Luther King Jr., was heavily damaged by an EF2 tornado just eight days before Martin Luther King Jr. Day?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shirley A. Pomponi
- Comment: Will do QPQ tomorrow, as it's getting relatively late over here. Feel free to reword hook. I wass initially going to go with "...that a historic tornado caused historic damage in a historic town?" but sadly couldn't find refs to back up the "historic tornado" part.
EF5 00:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC).
Eight days? That's out of the window of a week and I don't see any connection beyond that in the source, beyond it happening "ahead of" the holiday. Can you find any other sources further connecting these events? Departure– (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Not sure what you mean; Selma was a prominent civil rights town that MLK frequented. But alas, sure: An MLK Day Reflection In The Aftermath Of Selma’s EF2 Tornado, Residents in Selma, Ala., commemorate MLK day while recovering from tornadoes and Tornadoes rattle historic civil rights community of Selma, Alabama. Take your pick. :) EF5 00:56, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Alright, #1 is from a Forbes contributor (generally unreliable) and #3 doesn't connect much, but I do think that you can get a good hook from #2:
This goes over the prose limit for DYK, but if you approve of a hook in the same manner as this, we can get this condensed. Departure– (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2025 (UTC)...that a 2023 tornado in Selma, Alabama that struck days before Martin Luther King day was described as bringing together the historically racially divided community that had been at the heart of the Civil Rights movement?
- Ooh, that sounds great. EF5 01:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Are you still reviewing? EF5 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Yes, but I'm waiting for you to finish your QPQ. Finish that up and I'll go on with my review. Departure– (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Finished. EF5 17:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Other than that, the article is new enough, QPQ now done, long enough and seems neutral and well-sourced. The fact just needs to be put in the article. If you're using the one I suggested, it's the PBS source that I took it from. I can condense it down to:
... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?
- Barring any objection, we can go with this. Departure– (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Added. :) EF5 18:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Well, by adding it to the article, I didn't exactly mean copy and pasting the hook into there. It still needs attribution to who said it, and it should be cleaned up a bit in general. Departure– (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've fixed it, but please tell me if I'm wrong. EF5 18:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Seems fine, but forgive me for not checking before, but there were three marches. It's marches, plural. Change it there and then we'll be good to go. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed. EF5 18:37, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here's your checkmark:
good to go, on the hook
... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?
@EF5 and Departure–: In the article "brought together" is in quotes, but I don't see that phrase in the cited article. Also, how is the article describing the tornado as bringing the town together? Rjjiii (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- Can I get a second opinion on whether the original hook I suggested looks fine? The approved one is also creating issues at the GAN; it would have been much easier if the original was approved; the Forbes source is from a person with a PhD in meteorology. EF5 12:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @Departure–:. EF5 12:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Can I get a second opinion on whether the original hook I suggested looks fine? The approved one is also creating issues at the GAN; it would have been much easier if the original was approved; the Forbes source is from a person with a PhD in meteorology. EF5 12:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Here's your checkmark:
- Fixed. EF5 18:37, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Seems fine, but forgive me for not checking before, but there were three marches. It's marches, plural. Change it there and then we'll be good to go. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've fixed it, but please tell me if I'm wrong. EF5 18:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Well, by adding it to the article, I didn't exactly mean copy and pasting the hook into there. It still needs attribution to who said it, and it should be cleaned up a bit in general. Departure– (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Added. :) EF5 18:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Finished. EF5 17:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Yes, but I'm waiting for you to finish your QPQ. Finish that up and I'll go on with my review. Departure– (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Are you still reviewing? EF5 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ooh, that sounds great. EF5 01:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Alright, #1 is from a Forbes contributor (generally unreliable) and #3 doesn't connect much, but I do think that you can get a good hook from #2:
- @Departure–: Not sure what you mean; Selma was a prominent civil rights town that MLK frequented. But alas, sure: An MLK Day Reflection In The Aftermath Of Selma’s EF2 Tornado, Residents in Selma, Ala., commemorate MLK day while recovering from tornadoes and Tornadoes rattle historic civil rights community of Selma, Alabama. Take your pick. :) EF5 00:56, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- (that's a whole lot of indents, but) Yeah, I do think the Forbes source is accessible. Per RSP,
Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert
, which we have now proven he is. I think the first and original hook is factual but a bit lacking in the DYKINT elements, whereas the second one is a bit long-winded and would need more elaboration in the article than we've gotten so far. Departure– (talk) 16:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 11
[edit]The Ethereal Rock
- ... that according to Judith T. Zeitlin, the "most obvious inspiration" for Pu Songling's short story about a man's friendship with a rock was Mi Fu, "whose obsession with rocks had become proverbial"?
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: The hook needs to be cited, anything else seems fine. Munfarid1 (talk) 11:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: ummm, it is cited?? See the last line of "Analysis". KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:30, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's not a requirement y'know (as opposed to whether or not the hook fact is cited inline in the article proper), see for instance this thread, but I have just done so anyway. Thanks KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 12:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
The above hook has been pulled per WT:DYK#The Ethereal Rock as being too long and possibly not interesting to a broad audience. A new hook wording may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was away and only just saw this but, with respect, I find part of your objection to the SL93's first suggested alt ("... that the inspiration for the short story "The Ethereal Rock", about a man's friendship with a rock, was the painter Mi Fu?") strange ("Not much of an improvement since it's reliant on knowing who Mi Fu is.") since countless DYK hooks have involved some kind of reference to somebody or something (apart from the nominated article's subject) that a "non-specialist" audience would be unfamiliar with. Noting your point about wordiness, however, I propose thjis: "... that a Chinese short story about a man's friendship with a rock may have been inspired by the painter Mi Fu, who was reportedly obsessed with rocks?" Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 12
[edit]St. George Utah Temple
- ... that a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian Campaign (pictured) was later repurposed as a pile driver to create the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?
"The St. George Temple, completed in 1877, was a study in pioneer ingenuity...
An old cannon, one that was taken by Napoleon for his siege of Moscow, and which had found its way out west, was used as a piledriver... and then dropped upon the rock fill to solidify it into a strong base(foundation)"- ALT1: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife?

*Source: https://www.deseret.com/2003/7/11/19734272/temple-burns-151-but-not-angel/ "In the case of the St. George Temple, the fire became a local legend. Brigham Young had never liked the short, squat original temple steeple, and when the fire occurred — after his death — officials sighed and concluded that President Young was directing temple architecture from the afterlife. The new, taller steeple was built according to his stated desire."
- ALT2: ... that the St. George Utah Temple's baptismal font, modeled after a live ox and supported by twelve iron-cast oxen, was transported by oxen? (pictured)

- Reviewed: N/A
- Comment: I put the hooks in order of those I thought would be most intriguing for the recent GA grade for the St. George Utah Temple, a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since I felt the first was strongest, I put that as the default photo. If we want to make the hook for #1 more of a surprise, I would say instead: "The cannon used" so it is more of a surprise.
Each hook I've listed would go best with a different photo. I couldn't find any rules against having a possibility of different images, so I added links to Wikimedia commons for clarity.
Hook 1 image: The one shown (St. George Temple Visitors Center Cannon.jpg)
Hook 2 image (A front view of the building): St. George Utah Temple 2023-10-02.jpg Caption: The St. George Utah Temple
Hook 3 image: Ox Team that Hauled the Font to St. George Temple, 1874.png Caption: Oxen that hauled the baptismal font
For those checking the validity of the source, Deseret News is considered generally reliable as a source, per the Latter Day Saint Wiki project movement.[1]
I went back through this nomination template after the date it was nominated several times and added a few things to make the nomination more clear. March 1st I added some links to images to clarify things. However, the nomination itself was done within 7 days per the DYK rules, which is shown in the edit history of this template. This is my second DYK, so I'm not perfectly familiar with the rules, but I wanted to make things clearer while also showing that I am complying with the time rule.
Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2025 (UTC).
- Will take shortly.--Launchballer 15:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
@Itsetsyoufree32: Long enough, new enough. No QPQ necessary. You're going to need to add any images to this nomination for me to be able to consider them; I can tell you that ALT0 would require an end-of-sentence citation. However, there is a fair amount of close paraphrasing in the article and that would need remedying before primetime.--Launchballer 17:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Hi, thanks for reviewing my DYK nomination for the St. George Utah Temple.
- As far as it goes with the close paraphrasing- the user that did the GA said there was no close paraphrasing,[2] but he mentioned that Earwig picked up to 35.5% similarities, but that it was mostly proper nouns. I looked at the report, and I found a few phrases that were very close, but I rephrased those sentences. Otherwise it is mostly just things like names of the organization (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, titles of leaders (president of the Quorum of the twelve apostles), etc. Do you see specific spots where there are close paraphrasing sections that I can address- or were you specifically referring to something else besides Earwig?
- The only phrase I wasn’t sure I could replace was "Two days and two nights." I could say 48 hours, but since that isn’t verified (it could be 47 hours, 49, etc), then it would amount to original research. I’m curious about your opinion of that.
- I did some more research on the origins of the cannon- there are various reports that the cannon came from different places, so I may need to add more information and citations to the article. I’ll continue to do some research on that and ping you (hopefully within a few days). For now, I added that citation to the relevant part of the article. I’ll add the images here as well.
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Whatever close paraphrasing I found before I now can't, so nice one. Looking at the hooks/images in more detail, I could approve ALT0 and ALT2, but the oxen image is of technically poor quality (I wouldn't have known they were oxen if you hadn't told me) and the cannon probably shouldn't be obstructed. The source for ALT1 attributes officials, so the hook should as well.--Launchballer 12:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Great—the paraphrasing issue is resolved, and I've upgraded to a better-quality oxen image. Let me know your thoughts.
- Whatever close paraphrasing I found before I now can't, so nice one. Looking at the hooks/images in more detail, I could approve ALT0 and ALT2, but the oxen image is of technically poor quality (I wouldn't have known they were oxen if you hadn't told me) and the cannon probably shouldn't be obstructed. The source for ALT1 attributes officials, so the hook should as well.--Launchballer 12:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the cannon photo, I've looked into clearer images, but they’re extremely scarce—especially now that the cannon isn't publicly displayed since the recent renovation. Wikipedia’s manual of style advises using the best available image to illustrate the subject clearly, even if it's imperfect. Although the bottom of the cannon is partly obscured, the current photo clearly shows that it's a cannon and effectively illustrates the subject. Cropping can help remove distractions, but the bottom part would still remain hidden.
- I'll still reach out for a better shot, but realistically, this may be the best available image within our nomination timeframe. Alternatively, we could default to the temple’s front photo—but the cannon image uniquely captures readers’ interest. Let me know your preference.
- Also, what do you think of this refined hook for ALT1?
- ALT3: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife, according to Latter-day Saint officials?
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking very roughly in terms of ALT4: ... that Mormon officials interpreted architectural tweaks to St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?--Launchballer 13:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like your wording of this sentence better, it seems to flow well and make sense.
- As for the word Mormon, generally members of the Church oppose the use of the word Mormon in reference to it’s membership or theology.
- The manual of style says that “It is usually best to follow the predominant form found in the sources used for a particular Wikipedia article.” It also mentions using the full name of the Church in first reference, but since hooks are meant to be under 150 characters that may prove difficult. Since the sourcing we’re using refers to members as “Latter-day Saints”, and even has an article on the side that reads “Latter-day Saint Leaders” in a title, that would be preferred. Here is the improved hook:
- ALT4a: ... that Latter-day Saint officials interpreted architectural tweaks to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?
- “Church officials” would also work to keep it snappier.
- Once we’ve gotten this hook buttoned up, are there any other steps we need to do to get this nomination approved?
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 14:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I need another reviewer for the fact that Brigham Young was "president of the church".--Launchballer 14:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- No problem—another reviewer stepping in is fine with me. We can easily adjust the hook by replacing "president of the church" with "Brigham Young," as originally suggested:
- ALT4: "...that Latter-day Saint officials interpreted architectural tweaks to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from Brigham Young?"
- If you prefer, I can also add more citations to this nomination clarifying Young’s role as church president during the temple’s construction.
- Thank you again, Launchballer, for your quick reply and all your help with DYK!
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 15:28, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking very roughly in terms of ALT4: ... that Mormon officials interpreted architectural tweaks to St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?--Launchballer 13:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Zimbabwe at the 2014 Winter Olympics
- ... that although Zimbabwe does not experience snowfall, it participated in the 2014 Winter Olympics?
- Reviewed: n/a
- Comment: FYI, I might not reply fast on this nomination.
🐝 B33net 🐝 15:40, 12 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- n
- Interesting:
- n
- Other problems:
- ?
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Drive-by nomination. The issue is that the hook is not particularly interesting, many tropical nations that do not snow have participated in the Winter Olympics. Also, the source does state that Zimbabwe had not had snowfall in 40 years... except it's the skier who said that,
"I don't think there has been any recorded snowfall in Zimbabwe in something like the last 40 years," the 20-year-old skier said in a telephone interview.
, I would not consider this quote to be reliable. @B33net: jolielover♥talk 14:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:
- ALT1 ... that Luke Steyn, Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014, moved to Switzerland when he was two years old and grew up in Europe?
- Otherwise, the nomination may sadly have to be rejected for lack of a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:
- @Narutolovehinata5: I did think of that, but most reports (that I saw) about snow in Zimbabwe concluded that it was a country that does not snow, and its last recorded snowfall was 70+ years ago. The reports of snow in Zimbabwe in recent times, though debated, reportedly all happened after his participation. That's what I remember of when I searched info about snow in Zimbabwe when reviewing this hook. I do like your rewording of the hook, though not sure if I should pass it since the nominator has been AWOL from this nom since. Alternatively:
ALT2 ... that Luke Steyn was Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014?
@B33net:, what do you think about the new hooks? jolielover♥talk 16:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover: I agree with the new hooks. I’m trying to make them more intriguing. I feel like the Luke Steyn moving to Switzerland would be a good DYK 🐝 B33net 🐝 11:57, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 13
[edit]Grim Reaper of Love
- ... that "Grim Reaper of Love" by the Turtles (1966) is one of the earliest rock singles featuring a quintuple meter (5
4) beat?
- Source: Everett, Walter (2008). The Foundations of Rock: From "Blue Suede Shoes" to "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" (1st ed.). US: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-01-997-187-02. Page 308.
Sandoval, Andrew (2002). Solid Zinc: The Turtles Anthology. US: Rhino. R2 78304. Page 14.
Inglot, Bill (2009). Save The Turtles: The Turtles Greatest Hits. US: FloEdCo. MFO 48002. Page 9.- Reviewed:
VirreFriberg (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC).
Seems good, valid GA. "first" hook, which needs exceptional sourcing but three reliable sources are provided, which looks good to me. Cannot access but will AGF. However, in the body this claim does not actually seem to be said? ""something in a 5/4 time hadn't really been done in rock'n'roll", and quoted, not sure if it's quoting the musician or a secondary source, not really definitive. Does one of the provided sources say it was "one of the earliest" or equivalent? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, @PARAKANYAA. The Sandoval (2002) source states per verbatim "experiment with something in a 5/4 time that hadn't really been done as far as rock 'n' roll". The liner notes were written by musicologist Andrew Sandoval together with interviews from members of the Turtles!
- Sorry for late response, you didn't sign so the ping didn't work. I'm not sure if "hadn't really" is enough for WP:DYKDEFINITE. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, @PARAKANYAA. The Sandoval (2002) source states per verbatim "experiment with something in a 5/4 time that hadn't really been done as far as rock 'n' roll". The liner notes were written by musicologist Andrew Sandoval together with interviews from members of the Turtles!
- @VirreFriberg: Can you suggest some alternative hooks? Z1720 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- -@Z1720: Apologies for the late response. Alternatives hooks that spring to mind can be some variation of the original; "that "Grim Reaper of Love" by the Turtles (1966) unusually features a quintuple meter (5
4) beat?" VirreFriberg (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)- I'm not the nom or related to this article at all, but I like the "a fine piece of career suicide" quote for a hook, perhaps in contrast to it retrospectively being considered one of their best. "...that the Turtles' single A Grim Reaper of Love, which was called "a fine piece of career suicide", is now considered one of their best?"Rusalkii (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
1955 Scottsbluff tornado, Cycloidal marks

- ... that over ninety photographs and several videos were taken of the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured), which produced cycloidal marks?
- ALT1: ... that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) was the most well-documented tornado in history at the time of the event, including aerial photos of cycloidal marks the tornado produced? Source: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/40/3/1520-0477-40_3_109.xml
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hayseed Stephens, Template:Did you know nominations/NGC 1700
- Comment: Feel free to suggest another hook. If Cycloidal marks isn't long enough, I'll expand it.
EF5 17:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC).
The article isn't too bad but "well-photographed" is not a perfect analogue for "well-documented" in both the source and the article. While it might be relatively moot it still seems a little too SYNTH-y. The cycloical marks article really isn't long enough (at all) for DYK. It could be expanded, or you could change the hook to focus just on the Scottsbluff tornado.
- Hmm, I also think the claim about being the "best-documented" and indeed all figures for photographs focus on the tornado family - the AMS source you linked is even titled Notes on Scottsbluff, Nebraska, Tornadoes, 27 June 1955 - are we sure the article is even on one single tornado? This is about the most clean-up work I'm comfortable not failing; it's not quite "insurmountable" and I do think it's possible. Let me know when you're done clarifying everything and I'll finish my review. Departure– (talk) 21:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Will do shortly. How about that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) produced "unusual markings" later determined to be cycloidal marks? Debolding cycloidal marks gets rid of the length issue, as nonbolded links in the hook don't have quality standards. Will do the rest shortly once I finish up Draft:1920 Hackleburg–Phil Campbell tornado (which is surprisingly a real event). EF5 21:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Withdrawn - Don't have the time, unfotunately. EF5 00:06, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Will do shortly. How about that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) produced "unusual markings" later determined to be cycloidal marks? Debolding cycloidal marks gets rid of the length issue, as nonbolded links in the hook don't have quality standards. Will do the rest shortly once I finish up Draft:1920 Hackleburg–Phil Campbell tornado (which is surprisingly a real event). EF5 21:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Shabbos Kestenbaum
- ... that Shabbos Kestenbaum, a Harvard Divinity School graduate, sued Harvard University for failing to protect Jewish students from antisemitism?
Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough, long enough, and the citations appear to be from RS (I will review more closely shortly). The hook is mildly interesting, but there are facts that are more fascinating to the passing viewer in the article. The article needs to be copyedited a bit, as it's very AI-y (the adjectives are a tell). ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Pbritti: thanks for reviewing this. I have improved the article and added an ALT hook, let me know what you think. Thanks, Yeshivish613 (talk) 12:41, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Pbritti: just to follow up on this review... Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Having performed a spot check of the cited statements, I have identified a couple issues. A source says "In a school journal, he decried the Iraq War", which is interpreted in the article as
he first became politically active, notably opposing the Iraq War at a young age
. This is an inaccurate representation of the source. The same article is cited fordespite his stated disillusionment with both major political parties
, but he expresses no disillusionment with the Republican Party, only discontent with antisemitism among both far-left and far-right factions. I'm not entirely convinced that the article is in a suitable state to run on the main page. Please rewrite while keeping close to the sources. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Having performed a spot check of the cited statements, I have identified a couple issues. A source says "In a school journal, he decried the Iraq War", which is interpreted in the article as
- Hi @Pbritti: just to follow up on this review... Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Yeshivish613: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I think so, it has been significantly rewritten since this last review. Yeshivish613 (talk) 10:56, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Ready for re-review. Z1720 (talk) 14:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Sequoites dakotensis
- ... that in 1935, when Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described as a member of the genus Sequoia, it was common for such species to be known only by their fossilized cones?
- Source: Brown, Roland W. (October 15, 1935). "Some fossil conifers from Maryland and North Dakota". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 25 (10): 441-450. JSTOR 24530142.
Pbritti (talk) 05:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC).
- This is currently at the wrong taxonomic placement, see here and the affinity is uncertain as of 2002 [2]--Kevmin § 16:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Gary D. Lowe is not a amateur botanist, he is a real specialist. Also not, do not move the thing. It is not the accepted name. There is still a link for Sequoia dakotensis (https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65). Please do not move anything around. I just reversed the change. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
He may be a specialist, but a taxonomic authority prefers Sequoites. The link you provided above considers Sequoia dakotensis a synonym of Sequoites dakotensis. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The website is just a taxonomic names list, it does not speak to a consensus per say. Also, it does not confirm synonyms here, it just puts this as saying that some authors consider it a synonym or basionym. https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65. Bring me papers and books. Actually the Sequoites dakotensis discussion should be separate from this discussion. Sequoites is not the same thing as Sequoia from a paleobotanical sense. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: I was not expecting a long-dead tree to cause such disruption! I'm requesting a stay on this review until the taxonomic issues are sorted out. @Bubblesorg: multiple taxonomic authorities superior to a non-peer-reviewed amateur book reject the Sequoia name. The plant has been reassigned and remains somewhat uncertain, per Kevmin. Cut-and-paste moves are disruptive. We can discuss this further on the talk page. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti agreed, we should reach a stable version of the article and correctly cover the taxonomy issue (some authors fully and wrongly ignoring Bell) before we continue the nom here, I'll have to step out from reviewing as I have now added notable information to the article.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Bubblesorg This discussion needs to be at the article talk page. The IFPNI listing at Sequoia dakotensis specifically links it to Sequoites dakotensis as a jr synonym, and notes it as the older name. I also just added a summary from Kevin Aulenbacks book on the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, where he specifically also uses Sequoites dakotensis, connects it to PArataxodium and links several other organ taxa into a larger whole plant reconstruction based on foliage, ovulate cone, pollen, and pollen cone morphology. All that we now seem to be missing is a formal paper making the official moves and synonymies.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Question, does the Saurian field guide count as a reliable source? Probably not. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
new reviewer needed as I have substantially added and edited the article now, also the page move of the nomination here is creating editing access issues wit the nomination templates.-Kevmin § 15:46, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not seeing an actual review here, so I'll take it once I've eaten.--Launchballer 15:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
@Pbritti, Bubblesorg, and Kevmin: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig is clean. I see nothing deserving of a maintenance template, but I do see that the hook needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 15:40, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: I cant seem to find this statement in Brown, do you remember where you found it? If not we should come up with a different hook:
- Alt1 "... that Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described from clay filled casts and not the original cones?" Brown 1935 "These cones are ferruginous mud casts, the solid portion of which represents the spaces, and the cavities the woody substance of origin"--Kevmin § 14:06, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Kevmin: I'm not on the computer I use for most of my editing today. I'll get back to you on this late tomorrow or early Monday UTC when I have access to the JSTOR and the relevant articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 14
[edit]Not-deer
- ... that in Appalachian folklore, some deer are not deer?
- Reviewed: Not needed as I have less than 5 prior nominations
- Comment: I'm open to other hooks if any better ones can be thought of!
ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 16:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC).
. Sorry I couldn't catch this before the nomination went up! Multiple sources in the article appear to be unreliable, including Ground Zero Radio, Journal News, and Paranormal Catalog; I've tagged the article accordingly. Could you replace these sources or explain why these are usable in this context? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC)Maybe
- @TechnoSquirrel69: Hi, I've removed the unreliable sources. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 16:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that! I haven't conducted a full review, so
second opinion needed. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that! I haven't conducted a full review, so
- @TechnoSquirrel69: Hi, I've removed the unreliable sources. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 16:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also, linking Appalachian folklore, bypassing the redirect. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:05, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
The article is new enough (created on 14 February) and long enough (4405 characters). It has 4 sources, and all the sources discuss the subject in detail. Every paragraph has a citation at the end, and from what I saw, every claim is sourced. The article is free of plagiarism and copyright violation concerns. It is neutral and encyclopedic in tone. The hook is cited and interesting. QPQ not required. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 14:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
The hook has been pulled from Queue as the article has been nominated for deletion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:13, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 15
[edit]Southern Transitional Council takeover of Socotra
- ... that after getting ousted by the Southern Transitional Council, the governor of the Socotra archipelago fled to Oman and continued to govern the archipelago using WhatsApp?
- Reviewed:
𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- 47.6% on Earwig
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: The article is new enough (Created on Feb 15 submitted on Feb 18), long enough 4272 characters (671 words) per DYK Check. Well-sourced. Hook is cited and is reliable. QPQ is not needed as nom has less than 5 nominations
Now, the problem is the article is tagged with WP:WEASEL since February, the article has 47.6% on Earwig with this article aka WP:CLOSEPARA. I think this has potential but there is still a problem. Pinging @Abo Yemen: for responds. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:39, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Miminity: Thanks for the review. I almost forgot I had started this nom. I think I can fix those issues. Tho isn't 47% good enough or maybe a false positive? idk but ill see what I can do. Also is there a deadline cus it's Ramadan here and its hard to edit while fasting. (What's a QPQ?) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:40, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Abo Yemen: WP:QPQ or quid pro quo is where you review one nominations before nominating a page. Though QPQ is only done when you have more than 5 nomination. So, you don't need QPQ. Anyhow, ping me if you are done fixing the page, though, no need to rush as DYK nominations can be up for 2 months since nomination, or in this case, this can still be approved before April 18. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:05, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Miminity: I did some work on the article, want to check it out? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:19, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Abo Yemen:. The Weasel seems to be done imo, Great Job, though there is still problems with the close paraphrasing. See this Copyvio report for more info on how to fix it. A few word per word copy for the source is added (excluding the quotations). Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:05, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Miminity: how does it look now? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:56, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Abo Yemen:. The Weasel seems to be done imo, Great Job, though there is still problems with the close paraphrasing. See this Copyvio report for more info on how to fix it. A few word per word copy for the source is added (excluding the quotations). Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:05, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Miminity: I did some work on the article, want to check it out? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:19, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Abo Yemen: WP:QPQ or quid pro quo is where you review one nominations before nominating a page. Though QPQ is only done when you have more than 5 nomination. So, you don't need QPQ. Anyhow, ping me if you are done fixing the page, though, no need to rush as DYK nominations can be up for 2 months since nomination, or in this case, this can still be approved before April 18. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:05, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Louisiana Mayor's Courts
- ... that in the United States Louisiana and Ohio are the only states with Mayor's Courts?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Under "Mayor's Court" drop-down
Otr500 (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- There are at least one non-lead paragraph without sources (see the section Issues of conflicts of interest and bias). There are also failed verifications from sources, for example completely dead and recent sources (ref 5) and sources that links to appearently personal files on OneDrive (ref 4). Also see the comment I gave for the hook's source (ref 2).
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The source have a failed verification to the hook: it had zero mentions of the word "Ohio", so it's safe to assume that it didn't verify the hook.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- I'm quite concerned about whether the hook is relevant to the article: it doesn't quite make sense to say that there are two states with Mayor Courts, but linking the bolded link to one of the state's court.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Earwig said 16.7% simliarity, but Court costs section seems like the list is a mostly-copy of the source (with some modifications), so I'm not entirely sure about this. There are some style issues with the page, eg. starting a list without starting a new line and not using a list in the See also section. Overall, well done on creating the article, but there is some work required to be eligible DYK levels. (PS: I'm a new reviewer, other reviwers: please correct me if necessary) Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 12:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Otr500: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 18
[edit]Tommy Cronin
- ... that after playing in the NFL, Tommy Cronin worked in the dairy business?
- Source: obit for dairy business; played in NFL
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tim Urban (author)
- Comment: Looks like I'm slightly late; hoping for an extension per WP:DYKG:
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
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BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC).
I think this is filed erroneously under Feb 17 noms, as this was promoted on Feb 18. Regardless, the nomination is within the grace period and accepted without concern. The GA promotion is good, with no issues regarding plagiarism and images. The hook is cited and sourced, but I worry that it is not particularly interesting. Perhaps borrow some of the enthusiastic quotations from the article to help jazz this up? Other than that, get the QPQ done and we're good! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Added QPQ. Will look to develop alt hooks tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- A bunch of potential options – just throwing out everything that struck me as a possibility:
- ALT1 ... that Tommy Cronin didn't "know what 'quit' means"?
- ALT2 ... that Tommy Cronin, one of "the classiest basketball players who ever donned a high school uniform," played in the NFL?
- ALT3 ... that Tommy Cronin was described as having "made a name for himself" in the NFL, yet did not play in more than five games?
- ALT4 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his high school to play in the NFL – in 1922? or ALT5 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his school to play in the NFL – in 1922?
- ALT6 ... that Tommy Cronin played both basketball and football in high school, college, and professionally?
- Do any of those sound good? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 and ALT2 are good. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti, your thoughts on the proposed hooks and the submitted QPQ? BlueMoonset (talk) 22:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 and ALT2 are good. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 19
[edit]Pijush Kanti Mukherjee
- ... that Deputy Speaker of the West Bengal Legislative Assembly Pijush Mukherjee had been a prominent leader in Alipurduar of the movement to merge the Cooch Behar State into West Bengal?
- Source: Sukhabilāsa Barmā. Socio-political Movements in North Bengal: A Sub-Himalayan Tract, Vol. 1. Global Vision Publishing House, 2007. p. 76
Soman (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: Newly created, no paraphrasing issues, hook interesting. Seems GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:24, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- Does this pass WP:DYKINT for folks who might not be immediately associated with West Bengal? Sohom (talk) 13:41, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
I don't think it does; Soman, a new hook is needed to address the above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:48, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think one way to increase the hook's interest is to trim it of fat. @Soman and AirshipJungleman29: How does this sound?
- ALT1 ... that Pijush Mukherjee supported merging India's Cooch Behar State into West Bengal?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 doesn't exactly work. The merger took place decades ago, and saying 'India's' enters in a bit of a gray area, Cooch Behar was one of hundreds of princely states that merged into independent India. Perhaps something along the lines of ALT2 "... that when Pijush Mukherjee was elected Deputy Speaker of the West Bengal Legislative Assembly in 1971, he won a seat in the assembly in every election since independence?" --Soman (talk) 10:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- That's a bit on the long side and I feel like the meaning might be lost on readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 doesn't exactly work. The merger took place decades ago, and saying 'India's' enters in a bit of a gray area, Cooch Behar was one of hundreds of princely states that merged into independent India. Perhaps something along the lines of ALT2 "... that when Pijush Mukherjee was elected Deputy Speaker of the West Bengal Legislative Assembly in 1971, he won a seat in the assembly in every election since independence?" --Soman (talk) 10:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think one way to increase the hook's interest is to trim it of fat. @Soman and AirshipJungleman29: How does this sound?
Articles created/expanded on February 20
[edit]Jorge Munoz (American football)
... that Jorge Munoz, who once mentored Michael Desormeaux, is now an assistant on Desormeaux's coaching staff at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette?Source: [3][4]ALT1: ... that, in two years of college football at Southwestern College in California, Jorge Munoz "rewrote virtually all of Southwestern's offensive record book"?Source: [5]- Reviewed:
JTtheOG (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
Full review to follow, but I suggest dropping all hooks except for maybe ALT1. ALT2 isn't that unusual, and the others only appeal to college football fans (a minority outside of the US, even in countries where American football has a following). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I am fine with omitting the additional link. I suppose readers may click on the Munoz link or the reference for more information. JTtheOG (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I was originally going to review this myself, but the article is pretty dense so that might be a bit tough, so I'll leave the full review to another editor. I've struck all the other proposals, leaving just the most recent wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
This article, created on 21 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio problems. However, JTtheOG Narutolovehinata5 I can't find the hook about Desormeaux (ALT2) in the article. It says
Desormeaux was brought on as an assistant
, but nothing abt Munoz being an assistant to Desormeaux. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JTtheOG: Thanks for the response, which admittedly goes over my head a little (I'm not awfully familiar with American football). Per WP:DYKHOOK, the hook has to be clearly in the article and with a citation at the end of the sentence. Can you make it obvious somewhere in the page, with citations? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latter_Day_Saint_movement
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:St._George_Utah_Temple
- ^ Miller, Brody (May 29, 2022). "Louisiana football has reached new heights, but plenty of upside remains for Ragin' Cajuns". The Athletic. Archived from the original on February 21, 2025.
Maybe the most interesting addition is yet another person familiar with Lafayette, and that is new associate head coach and tight ends coach Jorge Munoz. Munoz previously spent 10 years at Louisiana coaching various positions, including being Desormeaux's quarterbacks coach. It was actually Munoz who brought Desormeaux on staff as running backs coach in 2016 when Munoz was offensive coordinator.
- ^ "UL's Munoz promoted to offensive coordinator". The Daily Advertiser. February 5, 2016.
For Desormeaux, working with his old mentor may mean as much as being back on campus.
- ^ Brents, Phillip (September 10, 1994). "Apaches are at bottom looking up". The Star-News. p. A6 – via Newspapers.com.
Articles created/expanded on February 21
[edit]Sophie Rain
- ... that Sophie Rain's recent "Playboy Mansion" requires "no silk robe-sporting old men"?
- ALT1: ... that Sophie Rain's massive success on OnlyFans has been attributed to her "unconventional looks"?
- ALT2: ... that OnlyFans is "not sunshine and rainbows 24/7", according to the platform's Sophie Rain?
- ALT3: ... that Sophie Rain was recently described as being in an "OnlyFans arms race" with two other creators?
- ALT4: ... that Sophie Rain went from living on food stamps to making $43,477,695.01 in a year on OnlyFans?
- ALT5: ... that Sophie Rain advertises her OnlyFans account on her Christianity and virginity?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Prosecutor
- Comment: ... and if WP:DYKHOOKBLP wasn't a thing, I'd propose ALT6: ... that "the horniest man in America" sent Sophie Rain's OnlyFans account $4.7 million in a year?.
Launchballer 05:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I've seen the subject in the news a bit lately. I find it extrodinary that there are so many simps willing to throw ridiculous amounts of money at content creators, but whatever floats your boat. Approve hook ALT4 which I think is a hell of a lot more interesting than references to Hugh Hefner in ALT0. Ps, for anyone looking for the supporting source it's this one TarnishedPathtalk 10:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@Launchballer and TarnishedPath: The nomination has been pulled per the discussion at WT:DYK#Sophie Rain. Concerns were raised about the references used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- (ec, from WT:DYK) New one on me regarding the Evening Standard, but I've cut everything except for an attributed opinion, which is also what Vice is solely used for. People is only being used for the claims that she goes to church and grew up on food stamps, neither of which I would describe as contentious (but the latter claim's also in the South China Morning Post and in this Riverfront Times piece). Complex is Complex Networks and has an editor-in-chief, according to Variety. Also, the number is also in this National World piece, which I was surprised to see people at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 465#NationalWorld.com sticking up for earlier this year. I'll take a closer look at Complex once I've eaten.--Launchballer 12:40, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I trimmed Complex for everything other than "$10 a month", which isn't contentious, and People for everything other than $50 million (I don't think it's contentious to say that "person who made lots of money makes even more"). What else?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, putting aside your dislike for the content matter, are the changes which have been made sufficient? TarnishedPathtalk 02:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We've got a big backlog of better material to run. I don't see that we need to go here. RoySmith (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We currently have the smallest backlog we've had all year, and this meets all five of WP:DYKAIM.--Launchballer 16:24, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We've got a big backlog of better material to run. I don't see that we need to go here. RoySmith (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, putting aside your dislike for the content matter, are the changes which have been made sufficient? TarnishedPathtalk 02:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I trimmed Complex for everything other than "$10 a month", which isn't contentious, and People for everything other than $50 million (I don't think it's contentious to say that "person who made lots of money makes even more"). What else?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Personally, I'd prefer we don't run this kind of sensationalistic drek at all, but even if we do end up finding better sources and running this, please change "$43,477,695.01" to "$43 million" in the hook for style reasons. RoySmith (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT4a: ... that Sophie Rain went from living on food stamps to making $43 million in a year on OnlyFans?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 23
[edit]Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender
- ... that the Japanese live-action television drama adaptation of Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender was first broadcast in Taiwan before being broadcast in its home country?
- Source: Shūkan TV Guide (link): ドラマは、なる粉氏の同名コミックを原作に映像化され、2021年12月に台湾で先行放送された。
lullabying (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC).
This article, created on 23 February, is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio issues. QPQ done. @Lullabying: This hook isn't very interesting (to me, at least). Did you have any others in mind? Tenpop421 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll try my best, but this is all that I can find for now, as coverage on this series is limited. lullabying (talk) 04:51, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is more than adequate IMO. If everything checks out and the hook conforms to all the requirements, the DYK should not be held up any further. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:32, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: There's no rush. This is a recent nom, and if nothing turns up, we can run with ALTO. We want people to see the new articles, and an interesting hook serves that purpose. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 25
[edit]Abseil rack
- ... that abseil racks have excellent heat dissipation?
- ALT1: ... that many cavers have used the same type of descender since 1969? Source: http://www.verticalmuseum.com/VerticalDevicesPage/RappelHistory.php
- Reviewed:
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- The article was first created February 17th, but discounting a one-line stub that was made then it was pubished February 25th. I am not sure if this meets the newness requirement or not.
- Long enough:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- There is one open WP:CITE tag in the article, but the article is otherwise sourced
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Neither hook seems to adequately be cited by the source(s) in question. For ALT0, there seems to be no indication that rappel racks have "excellent" heat dissipation, only that more recent designs have better dissipation than older models that have poor dissipation. For ALT1, I couldn't find this claim in the source. The closest seems to be this: "Before 1956, people suffered with body rappels. In the next decade, many new ideas appeared. Since 1966, there has been no real progress in rappelling."
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The article is interesting, but requires more work before it is eligible for WP:DYK. After that, I am inclined to request a second opinion on whether or not the article is eligible to be submitted for DYK given the date the article was first created. --Sky Harbor (talk) 10:22, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
@Sky Harbor:I think that I have corrected the problems now. If possible I would like to change the hook to "some cavers prefer the rappel rack for it's excellent heat dissipation?" Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Kingsmasher678. I see the open WP:CITE tag has been addressed, which is great, but for your proposed hook (ALT2), where in the sources is this indicated so I can vet it? --Sky Harbor (talk) 23:22, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the source supports that hook, Kingsmasher678. This is the same source that you used to back up ALT0, and I did not see anything in the source that indicated that rappel racks are preferred for excellent heat dissipation, but I may be reading the source incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you could point me to the specific instance in the source that points to your claim since I can't seem to find it; the source seems to point out how alternatives to rappel racks have poor heat dissipation, as opposed to rappel racks having "excellent" heat dissipation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Inchnabobart
- ... that Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha" at Inchnabobart?
- Source: ["At one point I told Gan-Gan about Ali G, the character played by Sacha Baron Cohen. I taught her to say "Booyakasha", showing her how to flick her fingers the way Sacha did. She couldn't grasp it, she had no idea what I was talking about but she had such fun trying to flick and say the word. With every repetition of that word, Booyakasha, she’d shriek which would make everyone else smile. It tickled me, it thrilled me. It made me feel … part of things". Spare (memoir), Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Penguin Group, 2024, 978-1-78222-191-3, page 79]
No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC).
New enough (nominated within 2 days of creation), long enough (1767 characters). AGF on offline book sources, of which there are several, which one would expect for the subject. Copyvio seems highly unlikely. There are several sentences quoted and cited appropriately from a book by Prince Harry. Tone is neutral. QPQ is done. Hook is attention-getting. It appears in the article and is cited appropriately. Per past discussions on DYK Talk, it is OK for hooks to cite primary sources. Excellent candidate for the quirky slot. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle and No Swan So Fine: I do not believe that half of the article sourced to Spare are WP:DUE, especially the trivial details of cooking, drinking, teaching catchphrases, and the quotes. Obviously, that is a problem for DYK reasons, as without them the article would be way under the DYK limit; nevertheless, I cannot promote this article in its current state. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: The details about the building's interior and how the royal family has used the building helps to bring the building to life. Point taken, however, about the footprint of the Prince Harry anecdote relative to the total real estate of the article. To address this, I have split up the overlong paragraph about the royal family's historical use of the property (which didn't really belong with the Prince Harry story about spending time there with his grandfather and great-grandmother). I've also created sections and sub-sections in the rest of the article, re-arranged some of the flow, and added a few more details from the other extensive sources cited in the article in the first place. I respect your personal wish not to promote this article, but hope that another promoter will look at the article more kindly. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
@No Swan So Fine and Ravenpuff: Having recently had a back-weighted hook sink like a lead balloon at DYK, my proposal is to deliberately front-load this one. I know it doesn't read as "smoothly" as an English sentence, but for DYK hooks, the choppiness can often work in your favour, and the evidence generally points to readers preferring front-weighted hooks because otherwise it's unclear where they are supposed to click. So the revised hook I am proposing is:
- ALT0a: ... that at Inchnabobart, Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha"? Cielquiparle (talk) 08:16, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)
- ... that the first governor of Macau, Francisco Mascarenhas, burned another Portuguese nobleman at the stake in the only known instance of an auto-da-fé at sea?
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 98: "On the homeward voyage, he 'ordered a gentleman of quality to be burnt to death, after finding him guilty of indulging in the unspeakable sin of sodomy'. This surely must be the only instance of an auto-da-fe at sea! Although the stake was the recognized penalty for this crime, the victim's social standing (he was a fidalgo named Francisco Pereira Pinto) got Dom Francisco into trouble, [...]"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tsuita
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Overall: New, long enough, and no paraphrasing issues. Looks GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
@Makeandtoss and Underbar dk: there is a discrepancy between the certainty of the hook and the source, which by stating "This surely must be the only instance..." does not make it certain. Is better sourcing available? See the last sentence of WP:DYKDEFINITE for why it is necessary. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Would it be fine if I added "according to historian C. R. Boxer?" to the hook? _dk (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 27
[edit]Climate change in Antarctica
- ... that between 1990 and 2020, the South Pole had warmed over three times faster than the global average?
- Source: Clem, Kyle R.; Fogt, Ryan L.; Turner, John; Lintner, Benjamin R.; Marshall, Gareth J.; Miller, James R.; Renwick, James A. (August 2020). "Record warming at the South Pole during the past three decades". Nature Climate Change. 10 (8): 762–770. Bibcode:2020NatCC..10..762C. doi:10.1038/s41558-020-0815-z. ISSN 1758-6798. S2CID 220261150.
InformationToKnowledge (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2025 (UTC).
- Feedback
- Comment: @InformationToKnowledge: I want to review this nom, but please remember to complete your QPQ. You've got a very partial, preliminary review in progress with a query waiting for a reply. Viriditas (talk) 23:40, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
- Any interest in cleaning up the hook: "... that between 1990 and 2020, the South Pole warmed more than three times faster than the global average?" Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
- Reading through the article. I see it is labeled as {{EngvarB}}, but the English is clearly not American. Is this British, Canadian, Australian, or something else? I ask because some of the word choices, tenses, and sentences threw me for a loop. I was about to correct them when I realized this is acceptable in non-American English. Perhaps it should be labeled as such in the heading or talk page so someone like myself doesn't try to change it?
- Some of the sources in this article are more than a decade old, making me wonder if the claims are still true. For example, in the "Temperature and weather changes" you write "some scientists continued to emphasize uncertainty", but that source is from 2015.
- Not a fan of the second paragraph of the "Temperature and weather changes". It has a very in medias res approach which is confusing AF. "There were fewer than twenty permanent weather stations across the continent and only two in the continent's interior." But you aren't talking about today, you are talking prior to 1981 or some other more relatively recent date at the end of the 20th century. It would help if you could fix this.
- Another editor has stepped in to complete a review for 2024 Tallahassee tornadoes. Because you didn't offer a full review, and only made a comment about the newness and length criteria, I think you might have to do another QPQ. Not sure about this, of course, so you may want to ask elsewhere, but from what I can tell a full review of the same article was offered by User:Cremastra.
- The climate engineering intervention sentence in the "Long-term sea level rise" section is a bit of a red flag as it vastly simplifies this kind of thought experiment and future study and fails to note that the researchers don't support it. They write: "we do not advocate for deployment of ice sheet interventions in either the short or the medium term". I think it's important to briefly note that most scientists do not believe that anything less than drastic carbon reductions now can make a difference and that loosely mentioning this sci-fi scenario is slightly misleading without the caveats. This problem has come up many times before in other topics which is why I raise it here. It's a common talking point in climate denial that technology will easily solve the problem without reducing energy use, but this is not true. This is also a popular talking point within the effective accelerationism movement, whose advocates want to use as much fossil fuel as possible to bring about AGI. They are fond of promoting these climate engineering ideas without telling people that no scientist currently believes it can work. The argument is long and complex, but these people believe that we can get away with destroying the planet in the short term to create a planetary civilization in the long term; this will in turn allow us to fix everything we've broken. I think we need to be careful here not to feed into those ideas. For a longer, more detailed explanation of this argument, see tescrealism. When you listen to these proponents carefully, except for a small minority, they generally share an antagonism towards actualizing decarbonisation, and often promote climate engineering interventions in its place.
On the Antarctic continent, plants are mainly found in coastal areas; the commonest plants are lichens (386 known species), followed by mosses (133 species) and ice algae, as well as liverworts (27 species).
Lichens and ice algae are not plants.- You've got Clem et al. 2020 cited for your hook up above, but your hook seems to derive specifically from Stammerjohn & Scambos 2020, which preceded Clem et al. You've also got both cited in the article for the hook. Stammerjohn & Scambos 2020 says: "The end result is a warming rate at the South Pole during 1989–2018 more than three times the global rate (+0.6 °C per decade versus +0.2 °C per decade)", or "in the past 30 years, the South Pole has been warming at over three times the global rate". Clem at al. 2020: "Over the last three decades, the South Pole has experienced a record-high statistically significant warming of 0.61 ± 0.34 °C per decade, more than three times the global average." Just noting this as it isn't explicit.
- Finding a lot of issues/typos.[3] Please review.
@Viriditas: Well, I was certainly hoping for a smoother review, but I appreciate the effort invested into this. If you don't mind, it'll probably take me another day or two to start responding to this in detail - not in the least so that I can find another QPQ, where I could invest the same kind of effort. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 21:33, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- FWIW, the same thing happened to me on a QPQ about a month ago and I had to find another one right quick. One way to prevent that from happening is to use the review template in the header and to put question marks in that areas that are unknown and then mention in the review that it is still in progress and you haven't yet finished. Viriditas (talk) 21:48, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Promoted to GA (new and long enough); sourced, neutral, and plagiarism-free; hook is cited and interesting, I think it could benefit from an image of a graph showing the warming, but it would have to be zoomed in to work; others may disagree. Could a different image work? I don't know. I made a list of issues in the article up above in the feedback section, although I fixed most of them. I would recommend that you review my changes to make sure I didn't accidentally mess anything up. I would be happier if you were able to fix the beginning of the second paragraph of the "Temperature and weather changes" as I specified in the feedback up above, as it really doesn't work for me. We're just waiting on a new QPQ to move forward and perhaps a slight fix to the hook, otherwise I think we are pretty close to done. Viriditas (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @InformationToKnowledge: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: We are waiting on a simple QPQ. Can you check that the original QPQ was not a full review? Viriditas (talk) 02:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @InformationToKnowledge: I agree with Viriditas that the wikilinked QPQ was not a full review. Please provide another QPQ. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I should also point out that the second paragraph of the "Temperature and weather changes" needs copyediting per the above concerns. Perhaps User:Femke can help as she is an expert in this topic area. Viriditas (talk) 02:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- User:Viriditas: thanks for your review here! I fixed one error with your ce. In terms of an image on temperature rise, it's tough to find a good one, and I believe the current image is a better representation of the topic. I did finally find a recent paper on the temperature rise (see Figure 3), which might be useable for the first paragraph. I'm happy to help copyedit a bit if ITK doesn't return to editing. My fingers are itching to make the lead shorter too, as its 600 words are a bit intimidating to me. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 22:13, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. I agree with you about the lead. I am also happy to donate a QPQ if that is acceptable. Viriditas (talk) 22:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- The literature on temperature seems a bit contradictory, so I've asked the author of the above study to clarify if there is now consensus on how much temperatures have gone up, if it has gone up at all.. There is an issue with failed verification in the paragraph you suggested I copyedit, so I'll see first what ITK thinks. That section can be shortened if we dwell less on very old debates, and more on the current knowledge around temperature changes. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. I agree with you about the lead. I am also happy to donate a QPQ if that is acceptable. Viriditas (talk) 22:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 2
[edit]Betsy Arakawa
- ... that Gene Hackman stayed with his wife for about a week after she died? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89ydyjewjlo
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/St. George Utah Temple
- Comment: Driveby nom. Much of this was written in dribs and drabs; apologies if I missed any substantial contributions.
Launchballer 17:24, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
- Hi Launchballer given something like this was in In the News recently (and was fairly controversial), do you have any other ideas for a hook about Arakawa? Tenpop421 (talk) 17:39, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, and I wouldn't have thought that was a problem. Articles are only disqualified if they appear as a boldlink and Arakawa was never boldlinked there.--Launchballer 18:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I wasn't talking about a disqualification, I just thought it might attract flack as gratuitous, as the ITN blurb did. BLP does apply to the recently dead, and to focus on the particularly unpleasant death of the pair seems unfair to this talented couple. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have to do some actual research into her.--Launchballer 18:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't much information on her. She was a private person and died a sudden natural death caused by illness, which is not a noteworthy fact, and Hackman subsequently died essentially from old age, being 95, i.e. from a heart condition, which is even less noteworthy, and the fact that they died seven days apart during which period he did not call anyone because he did not comprehend the situation due to his advanced Alzheimer's is also exactly what anyone* (* anyone who knows what Alzheimer's disease is and what it means to be 95 years old with advanced Alzheimers) would expect to happen under the circumstances. Therefore, the hook fails WP:DYKGRAT. It is not unusual or intriguing and it is gratuitous.—Alalch E. 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alalch E. Launchballer there's an ongoing AfD discussion about this article. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's hard to know for sure, but it doesn't look like the article will be deleted. @Launchballer: I'm not a fan of ALT0 based on what Alach E. wrote above. Can you offer another one? Up above, Alalch says Arakawa was a private person and her death isn't noteworthy, but I disagree with them on that point. Exposure to hantavirus is rare, but New Mexico has had the highest number of hantavirus cases recorded since 1993.[4] Further, our article on the effects of climate change on hantavirus suggests that climate change in New Mexico may be partly to blame. For me, the rarity of Arakawa's death due to hantavirus is notable and should form the basis of the new hook. Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- MEDRS is well out of my comfort zone, but I can suggest ALT1: ... that Betsy Arakawa died of a rare disease passed from rodents? I can also suggest, per a tip-off at the AfD,
ALT2: ... that after Betsy Arakawa died, Snopes debunked a rumor involving the FBI discovering 701 bodies in a tunnel under her house?--Launchballer 13:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)- I have removed the ALT2 claim from the article, consistent with the rationale in my edit summary.—Alalch E. 16:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Good edit. For those not familiar with what is happening, the QAnon disinformation effort mines science fiction for ideas and then adapts it to modern news stories to use as propaganda against so-called liberals. The "underground tunnels" idea began with Mole people in fiction. During the COVID-19 pandemic, pro-MAGA QAnon-related social media accounts (some homegrown, some connected to foreign nations) began to spread the idea that the pandemic was a cover story for saving the "mole children" in underground tunnels. As always, liberals and democrats were the antagonists in these tales. Gene Hackman was a famous supporter of the Democratic Party. It is not surprising to see the same QAnon conspiracy theories about underground tunnels being found under his house after his death. This is part of a larger disinformation campaign by the pro-Trump wing injecting an infodemic of false information into the media on a daily basis, or what they refer to as "flooding the zone". There are earlier antecedents to this kind of thing in the right wing literature focused on conspiracy theories in United States politics. While the more modern version is focused on the exploitation of children in underground tunnels, Mother Jones traces it back to 1980s conservatism and the Satanic panic.[5] It also resurfaced in the 1990s as part of the right wing underground bases conspiracy theory (see Dulce Base), which was traced back to old science fiction stories created by Richard Sharpe Shaver in the 1940s. Viriditas (talk) 00:46, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have removed the ALT2 claim from the article, consistent with the rationale in my edit summary.—Alalch E. 16:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- MEDRS is well out of my comfort zone, but I can suggest ALT1: ... that Betsy Arakawa died of a rare disease passed from rodents? I can also suggest, per a tip-off at the AfD,
- It's hard to know for sure, but it doesn't look like the article will be deleted. @Launchballer: I'm not a fan of ALT0 based on what Alach E. wrote above. Can you offer another one? Up above, Alalch says Arakawa was a private person and her death isn't noteworthy, but I disagree with them on that point. Exposure to hantavirus is rare, but New Mexico has had the highest number of hantavirus cases recorded since 1993.[4] Further, our article on the effects of climate change on hantavirus suggests that climate change in New Mexico may be partly to blame. For me, the rarity of Arakawa's death due to hantavirus is notable and should form the basis of the new hook. Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alalch E. Launchballer there's an ongoing AfD discussion about this article. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't much information on her. She was a private person and died a sudden natural death caused by illness, which is not a noteworthy fact, and Hackman subsequently died essentially from old age, being 95, i.e. from a heart condition, which is even less noteworthy, and the fact that they died seven days apart during which period he did not call anyone because he did not comprehend the situation due to his advanced Alzheimer's is also exactly what anyone* (* anyone who knows what Alzheimer's disease is and what it means to be 95 years old with advanced Alzheimers) would expect to happen under the circumstances. Therefore, the hook fails WP:DYKGRAT. It is not unusual or intriguing and it is gratuitous.—Alalch E. 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have to do some actual research into her.--Launchballer 18:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I wasn't talking about a disqualification, I just thought it might attract flack as gratuitous, as the ITN blurb did. BLP does apply to the recently dead, and to focus on the particularly unpleasant death of the pair seems unfair to this talented couple. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, and I wouldn't have thought that was a problem. Articles are only disqualified if they appear as a boldlink and Arakawa was never boldlinked there.--Launchballer 18:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
This article was kept at AfD and this DYK nomination needs a complete review from the top. (Struck ALT2 per discussion above). Full credit will be awarded to the reviewer. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 7
[edit]Jules Rabin
- ... that artisan baker Jules Rabin was inspired to bake bread after a 1971 visit to a commune in France where "they didn't speak of bread as holy, but they treated it as a holy object"?
- Source: "In 1971, the Rabin family took a sabbatical in France, which included a week near Montpellier in what Jules described as "a very serious, intentional community, where bread was central." About 100 people lived an 18th-century life, weaving their own wool for clothing and subsisting largely on huge round loaves called miches.
Thriley (talk) 23:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Thriley: Everything looks good, except the personal life section, which I recommend either deleting or rewriting. I'm not a fan of "I lived a long time and here's why I think I managed to do it" sections as they tend to wade into pseudoscience. Sometimes they can work if there's a bit of irony or humor involved. I think the material can still work if we emphasize the diet and exercise without mentioning "Rabin believes his long life is rooted in x, y, z". Just my take, of course. Viriditas (talk) 01:00, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I went ahead and made the changes. Viriditas (talk) 01:06, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- You left out his military service, which is pretty important since he's now a pacifist. Viriditas (talk) 01:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I added it. Viriditas (talk) 01:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
I made substantial changes to fix a few issues. Review still needed. Viriditas (talk) 01:41, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Remember Monday
- ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday why she was barefoot?
- ALT1: ... that the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday are set to become the first girlband to represent the BBC at the Eurovision Song Contest since 1999?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raj Salwan
- Comment: I just expanded Remember Monday to get it over 1,500 characters; What the Hell Just Happened? is almost entirely a driveby nomination. It would be great if this could run on 17 May, which is the date the band are set to perform that song on the Eurovision Song Contest, which is more than six weeks away, so remind me to put in a request at WT:DYK. I'm also aiming to make Holly Hull (ALT0's "a future member") into a GA by then. (I rewrote it in early February after their participation was rumbled, with the expectation that the BBC would announce it properly fairly quickly. They didn't.)
Launchballer 19:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: a) Note - Remember Monday was subjected to sock edits. But I presume that user:Ponyo got them all, and am not aware that that would still be a problem for this DYK - people should let me know if I am incorrect on that.b) Because this nomination offers two bolded articles, a second qpq is required (one is required for each nominated article, and only one has been performed as of yet ). c) I prefer the initial hook. d) Earwig found violation to be unlikely and spotchecks did not yield concerns. e) The main hook does not have any ref at the sentence in the article in which the statement is made.
- Raj Salwan is a double nomination. I added a duplicate ref. Also, for what it's worth, I just put in a date request at WT:DYK#Date request and moved and GAN'd Holly-Anne Hull.--Launchballer 09:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I consider that the above quote supports my point. I am disinclined to post again at WT:DYK given my date request fell on deaf ears (though you are free to do so yourself), but I can tell you that I've had several recent joint QPQs fly on this basis (Ceechynaa, The Cock Destroyers, Anaïs Gallagher) - perhaps @Jolielover:, @Narutolovehinata5:, or @Crisco 1492: would like to opine.--Launchballer 12:18, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I found an image in File:The Jennifer Hudson Show Garcelle Beauvais 1924.webm and have put in a request at the photography workshop.--Launchballer 13:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Good find. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
James Nwoye Adichie
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James Nwoye Adichie was the first person to hold a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics in Nigeria?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/
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Overall: @SafariScribe: The article is new enough and long enough. No copyvio detected. QPQ done. The hook is interesting but I don't see in the source where it says he was the first person in Nigeria to have a PhD in statistics? The source says he was "the second person to obtain a PhD degree in Statistics from the University of California and the first Nigerian to do so." The source makes it sound like he was first Nigerian to get a PhD in statistics specifically from that college. Thoughts? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- IIRC "first to do X as a Y" hooks are generally frowned upon in the DYK community. Bremps... 15:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that James Nwoye Adichie was the first Nigerian to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- How about ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? A Nigerian being the second overall person to get a PhD in statistics from UC Berkeley seems more interesting, assuming the source is correct... (WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. That does cast some doubt on the claim above. Maybe we could do one of the below two hooks instead:
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in 1966, James Nwoye Adichie became the first Nigerian to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?
- ALT4: ... that Nigerian academic James Nwoye Adichie was kidnapped in 2015?
I know Bremps left that comment above about "first to do X as a Y" hooks but I still think it's kind of interesting. Others can disagree if they want. Also, were there anymore details on his kidnapping or no? The article doesn't explain why he was kidnapped. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 9
[edit]Alex Garfin
- ... that five-year-old actor Alex Garfin had his hair and eyebrows dyed blonde to play a Russian spy-in-training?
- Source: "Alexander Garfin," TV Insider. "By five, he was playing a very young Russian spy in training in the Angelina Jolie movie "Salt" (2010) for which the five-year-old actor had his hair and eyebrows dyed blonde.'"
- Reviewed: Festungshaft
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor, who usually also provides the QPQ, but they have forgotten this time. This is their reminder :-)
The history is a bit convoluted and to save you the bother trying to decipher this, here's what has happened: the article was created in draft space, didn't pass an AfC, but some editor moved it to mainspace anyway (28 Jul 2022), it was moved back into draft space within an hour, and eventually deleted (27 Dec 2024). Upon request, the bio was restored to draft space (14 Feb 2025), expanded by the IP, and accepted through AfC yesterday, when it was moved to mainspace.
Thariqziyad wrote a chunk of content back in April 2022, hence I shall include them as one of the authors.
Schwede66 22:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
- n
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- n
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: Not only is the Filmography section completely unreferenced, there are two tags that need to be resolved. I don't know if it's an issue with my computer but this reference just shows the subject's name followed by Biography with no details. SL93 (talk) 23:55, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. As to the refs, I've added them to the tables .. good catch. All were previously in the text, but some had been deleted. As to the tv guide ref .. try googling tvguide.com alex garfin. As to the tags, an editor seems to have thought I was someone I wasn't - who was blocked. And templated and deleted material as a result of that mistaken belief. I expect that will sort out. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B988:8BEF:5DBE:59F6 (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the editor above was dissatisfied with the fact that the TV Guide source did not present sufficient WP:SIGCOV of Garfin. About the deletions I've made, I only removed sourced content that were WP:COPYVIOs, which you should watch out for a little more. Also, you indeed are not blocked from Wikipedia, if you are who I think you are. Badbluebus (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I meant that the source shows white space minus the title. It works under a Google search for some reason. SL93 (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the editor above was dissatisfied with the fact that the TV Guide source did not present sufficient WP:SIGCOV of Garfin. About the deletions I've made, I only removed sourced content that were WP:COPYVIOs, which you should watch out for a little more. Also, you indeed are not blocked from Wikipedia, if you are who I think you are. Badbluebus (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Toledo Progressive Party
- ... that the Toledo Progressive Party from southern Belize attended two sessions of the United Nations General Assembly 4th Committee, reportedly sponsored by the Guatemalan government?
Soman (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and cited to reliable sources throughout. No copyright violations detected. QPQ has been done. Hook fact is verifiable, but is dreadfully dull. Attending a United Nations session/event isn't particularly surprising or interesting. UN events around the world routinely attract a global audience of diplomats, political leaders, activists, educators, academics, and even on occasion celebrities. This is not unusual in any way, or surprising. It would be like saying scientist goes to science conference, and in this case is literally political party attends committee meeting (which is what politicians and political activists routinely do). We need a different and more interesting hook. Please ping me when a new hook is proposed.4meter4 (talk) 16:32, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the bigger picture here. The 4th Committee is the UN Committee on decolonization, which oversaw many of the transfers from European colonial powers to independent states. Belize as of 1977-1978 was still a British colony, that was at stake was whether Belize would remain a colony, become an independent state or be annexed by Guatemala. The fact that the Guatemalan government sponsored a proxy group in southern Belize, to legitimize its territorial claims, is interesting. There could be other ways to phrase the hook, but this is the key factoid of relevance here. --Soman (talk) 10:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Xiao Yedan
- ... that Yi chieftain Xiao Yedan (pictured) and a Chinese Red Army military leader established an alliance by drinking chicken blood?
- Source: Traditional Chinese Folk Customs
Toadboy123 (talk) 09:07, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
The nomination's subject is somewhat outside my comfort zone so I am only doing a partial review and leaving the final check to another editor. I can confirm that the article is new enough (created and nominated on the same day) and is long enough. The provided QPQ is a little incomplete (no QPQ check for example or checking for interestingess), but in the interest of moving this nomination forward I can let it slide, with a note to the nominator to check these in the future. The hook is cited inline and verified in the Chinese-language source. I would advise against using the image as it appears to be low quality. The main reason I am deferring final approval to another editor is that the article is largely dependent on Chinese government websites, and I am unsure if they would be considered reliable or suitable for the purposes of the article. The article also has a minor typo: "stituaion". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:17, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 10
[edit]Couldn't Wait to Tell You
- ... that Liv.e wrote and recorded her debut album Couldn't Wait to Tell You whilst she was working in Urban Outfitters?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is technically just over the time limit for newness by a few hours. However, I only learned about the DYK rules just now. For the authorship, I expanded the article 5x and added the text of the DYK, although if 'author' means strictly the creator of the article I'm happy for them/someone else to take credit instead of me.
Krimzonmania7078 (talk) 11:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
This article, 5x expanded on 10 March, is new enough and long enough. @Krimzonmania7078: I've marked some missing citations that need to be added before this is good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:03, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Sobrevivendo no Inferno
- ... that Sobrevivendo no Inferno by Racionais MC's, which critiques police violence and systemic racism in Brazil, was later included as required reading for a university vestibular exam?
- Source: Musical style: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/2021/08/entenda-como-os-racionais-fizeram-de-sobrevivendo-no-inferno-um-marco-cultural.shtml "A separação de classes estar ligada com o racismo na sociedade brasileira, isso é bastante novo na música." -> [The separation of classes is linked to racism in Brazilian society, which is quite new in music.] Vestibular exam: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/educacao/2018/05/racionais-mcs-vira-leitura-obrigatoria-para-vestibular-da-unicamp.shtml "Uma das mais importantes instituições de ensino do país, a Unicamp (Universidade Estadual de Campinas) incluiu entre as obras de leitura obrigatória para o vestibular 2020 o álbum Sobrevivendo no Inferno, clássico dos Racionais MC's. É a primeira vez que um disco de música é recomendado para a prova." -> [One of the most important educational institutions in the country, Unicamp (State University of Campinas) included among the mandatory reading works for the entrance exam 2020 the album Sobrevivendo no Inferno, a classic of Racional MC's. It is the first time a music album has been recommended for the exam.]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The album was a whole was included at this vestibular exam and not a specific track.
Cattos💭 18:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
Detention of Mahmoud Khalil
- ... that the arrest of a pro-Palestinian activist was described as "[reeking] of McCarthyism"?
- Source: Shapiro, Eliza (2025-03-09). "ICE Arrests Pro-Palestinian Activist at Columbia". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2025-03-10.
🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 11:56, 11 March 2025 (UTC).
- @LunaEclipse: Hook rather relies on knowing what McCarthyism is, which I don't (perhaps it's an American thing?). What else do you suggest?--Launchballer 15:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: ALT1: ... that a pro-Palestinian activist was arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents despite being a permanent resident in the country?
- (per comments below) ALT1a: ... that a pro-Palestinian activist was arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents despite being a documented immigrant?
- For context (referring to ALT0), McCarthyism was an anti-communist moral panic in 1950s America. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 15:46, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: ALT1: ... that a pro-Palestinian activist was arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents despite being a permanent resident in the country?
Sounds good to me. Full review needed.--Launchballer 15:49, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- This hook still demands some U.S.-specific knowledge—that it's unusual or remarkable for the US ICE to arrest permanent residents, and more broadly what the legal designation of "permanent resident" means. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:26, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- TBF, I can reword the "permanent resident" part, but I still believe putting out the full name of the org makes it pretty blatant; additionally, Trump's deportation efforts received some international coverage ([6][7][8]), so I expect a non-US reader to know surface-level info about ICE. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 12:02, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- I also had not heard of the organisation, but knew instinctively what they did.--Launchballer 12:29, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: This could potentially be combined with the Bridges v. Wixon nom below for a nice double hook. Bremps... 02:58, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Let's see a hook. Courtesy ping to @Chetsford:.--Launchballer 03:10, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I certainly don't object to combining the two but am agnostic on the point. While the two subjects are closely related, Bridges v. Wixon is not explicitly mentioned in the OP article so it might require some creativity to draft a hook that did not delve into original legal analysis. I'll defer to everyone else to decide. Chetsford (talk) 03:14, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the recent detention of legal immigrant Mahmoud Khalil has been compared to the 1945 case Bridges v. Wixon? Bremps... 03:29, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- It'll need an end-of-sentence citation and I'd consider adding "the documented immigrant" or somesuch for interest purposes. (Is it 1945 or 1947?)--Launchballer 13:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- My bad, it was '45. Feel free to make changes to the hook— the information is fully cited in the article. Bremps... 14:24, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the recent detention of legal immigrant Mahmoud Khalil raises the same constitutional questions as a 1945 court case? Bremps... 15:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- My bad, it was '45. Feel free to make changes to the hook— the information is fully cited in the article. Bremps... 14:24, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- It'll need an end-of-sentence citation and I'd consider adding "the documented immigrant" or somesuch for interest purposes. (Is it 1945 or 1947?)--Launchballer 13:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the recent detention of legal immigrant Mahmoud Khalil has been compared to the 1945 case Bridges v. Wixon? Bremps... 03:29, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I certainly don't object to combining the two but am agnostic on the point. While the two subjects are closely related, Bridges v. Wixon is not explicitly mentioned in the OP article so it might require some creativity to draft a hook that did not delve into original legal analysis. I'll defer to everyone else to decide. Chetsford (talk) 03:14, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Let's see a hook. Courtesy ping to @Chetsford:.--Launchballer 03:10, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Comment: "Was described as" feels like a weasle word to me. It would be more notable if the source of the quote was mentioned in the hook to add a level of notability aside from, "Someone said X could be Y." GGOTCC (talk) 01:45, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
This article, created on 10 March, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. QPQ done. I've also reviewed Bridges v. Wixon at the nom. There is not a consensus that the hook fact has to be in both articles for a multi-hook like this, so its sufficient that its in Detention of Mahmoud Khalil, but it would be nice if someone added a paragraph about the detention to Bridges v. Wixon. I like ALT3 (ALT2 goes a bit beyond the article), but I'd modify it a little so it hews closer to Strossen's comments:
- ALT3b: ... that the recent detention of legal immigrant Mahmoud Khalil raises similar constitutional questions to a 1945 court case?
- ALT3c: ... that the recent detention of legal immigrant Mahmoud Khalil raises constitutional questions about the free speech rights of immigrants discussed in a 1945 court case?
Pinging involved editors @LunaEclipse, Chetsford, Launchballer, and Bremps: for their opinion on these hooks. ALT3c may need a new reviewer (per WP:DYKRR) if people like it. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:24, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 11
[edit]Gambling in Saudi Arabia
- ... that in 1962, some people witnessed Fahd at a hotel in Monte Carlo to have lost a significant amount of money, about £7 million ?
- Reviewed:
GenuineArt (talk) 11:44, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review): where is the article link in the hook? And strangely, the hook itself is about gambling in Monte Carlo, not Saudi Arabia... -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
@GenuineArt: this article is essentially a stub and so fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Also, as pointed out above by P199, the hook is inappropriate for DYK as it doesn't link back to the article (see WP:DYKMOS) and is more focused on Fahd than on the general phenomenon of gambling in Saudi Arabia (see WP:DYKHOOK). Tenpop421 (talk) 22:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 12
[edit]Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York
- ... that since its founding in 1892, the Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York has made $380 million in interest-free loans, with a 99.9% repayment rate?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Java War
- Comment: Article is still at AfD, which has been withdrawn by the nominator, but is still open; this nom was submitted to start the process.
Alansohn (talk) 11:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: not a review, but I notice that the hook is sourced to a medium blog, which in turn cites the HFLS itself? There are a few other cites to the HFLS for content that's not necessarily non-controversial. I'll leave it to the nominator and reviewer to work out whether that's fine or if it needs to be changed, but I thought I'd bring it up. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Maharani (song)
- ... that Alamat's 2023 single "Maharani" charted twice on Billboard Philippines' Hot 100 chart in July 2024, making them the first Pinoy pop boy band to enter the magazine's charts?
- Source: "On the Billboard Philippines Hot 100, dated July 27, 2024, the multicultural, multilingual P-pop boy group have made a re-entry with their fan-favorite track 'Maharani' taking the No. 95 spot. 'Maharani' first ranked on the same chart at No. 80 during the week of July 6 — the week of the chart’s debut — helping P-pop dominate its rankings alongside the likes of Maki and BINI. To date, Alamat are the only P-pop boy group that have managed to enter the premier music chart’s rankings." Source: https://billboardphilippines.com/market/chart-beat/alamat-re-enter-the-billboard-philippines-hot-100-with-maharani/
- Reviewed:
Bloomagiliw (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
Abul Rauf Seemab
- ... that Abul Rauf Seemab, a famous potter from Pakistan, was one of the pioneers of All India Muslim League ?
- Reviewed:
Rayyan baig1 (talk) 12:31, 13 March 2025 (UTC).
As currently written, I do not see how the hook meets WP:DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 13
[edit]Kabua Kabua
- ... that Marshallese chief Kabua Kabua was described as "probably the only person ever to serve as a judge under both the Japanese and U.S. judicial systems"?
- Source: Honolulu Star-Advertiser (quote from there)
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours. This would be only the third Marshallese bio to be featured at DYK ever.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2025 (UTC).
Juno (Overwatch)
- ... that Juno is a human Martian in the video game Overwatch 2?
- ALT1: ... that the Overwatch character Juno received a skin that made her look like the anime character Ochaco Uraraka? Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/the-prophecy-is-fulfilled-overwatch-2-just-announced-one-of-its-best-collabs-with-my-hero-academia-which-means-we-get-a-juno-x-uraraka-skin/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Created this as redirect back in July. Kung Fu Man converted out of redirect earlier this week, and we have both added to it since then. Will complete QPQ soon. Soulbust (talk) 20:15, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Soulbust (talk) 20:15, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
No copyright violations or any issues. The article is well-sourced and long enough. As soon as QPQ has been done this will be good to go. Well done! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but this seems like a WP:DYKFICTION violation. Bremps... 18:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I forgot about the WP:DYKFICTION limitation (one of the most inexplicably goofy and unnecessary restriction on Wikipedia, imo). So that does rule out ALT0, I believe. That said ALT1 should be fine here? It says an in-game skin gives her the look of a character from a different media franchise. I'm sure at the very least, the ALT1 hook can at least be tweaked to stay within the guideline. Soulbust (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I did not actually see ALT0 as DYKFICTION but I understand why it could be seen as that. I think ALT1 is best to use as it definitely is not in universe and will attract more readers' attention. Please ping me when QPQ has been done so I can approve this and then another edit can move this to the queue.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: @Soulbust: ALT1 requires knowledge of Ochaco Uraraka, and isn't very interesting even to someone who knows who that character is. How about this:
- I did not actually see ALT0 as DYKFICTION but I understand why it could be seen as that. I think ALT1 is best to use as it definitely is not in universe and will attract more readers' attention. Please ping me when QPQ has been done so I can approve this and then another edit can move this to the queue.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I forgot about the WP:DYKFICTION limitation (one of the most inexplicably goofy and unnecessary restriction on Wikipedia, imo). So that does rule out ALT0, I believe. That said ALT1 should be fine here? It says an in-game skin gives her the look of a character from a different media franchise. I'm sure at the very least, the ALT1 hook can at least be tweaked to stay within the guideline. Soulbust (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but this seems like a WP:DYKFICTION violation. Bremps... 18:29, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 23:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I feel like a lot of DYK blurbs require knowledge of something else, or can be argued as such. I think ALT1 can be tweaked to broaden it to a "character from the anime My Hero Academia" or just remove the character's name so it can just read "that the Overwatch character Juno received a skin that made her look like a character from an anime". Either way, it's pretty interesting to me I feel, though all of this is inherently subjective. Your ALT3 suggestion is fine with me for what it's worth. Soulbust (talk) 20:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Soulbust: As it has been several days since the nomination yet a QPQ has not yet been given, the nomination will be closed within 24 hours if a QPQ is not completed and provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:29, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- QPQ technically completed at Jeep ducking. Also jeez it's been 4 days since the nom, and if I nominated the article today, it would still be within the 7 day period after it was created out of a redirect. If I need to review another nom (since someone got to the Jeep ducking nom very shortly before I did) let me know. Soulbust (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Please read WP:QPQ:
Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination.
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:51, 20 March 2025 (UTC)- Not my first time doing this. I've read it. There's always (seemingly) been a culture of grace and understanding with the DYK section, or one that is imo relaxed to a degree that the nom wouldn't be closed in half a week if the nominator made an explicit statement that they'll complete the QPQ soon. I did the QPQ review yesterday, so within 3 days. That's pretty soon to me. Wikipedia isn't the only thing I can or do give my attention to. And even when I'm locked in on Wikipedia, there's a lot of things on here that I like to edit. Again, QPQ's done for this one. Let me know if I need to review another one, given the context I gave above. Soulbust (talk) 15:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Soulbust: to clarify, I don't think Jeep ducking would count as QPQ, as someone else got there first, but the good faith attempt is appreciated and your nom shouldn't be closed soon for lack of QPQ. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: Gotcha. I'll find another one to review in a moment. Soulbust (talk) 15:20, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Soulbust: to clarify, I don't think Jeep ducking would count as QPQ, as someone else got there first, but the good faith attempt is appreciated and your nom shouldn't be closed soon for lack of QPQ. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not my first time doing this. I've read it. There's always (seemingly) been a culture of grace and understanding with the DYK section, or one that is imo relaxed to a degree that the nom wouldn't be closed in half a week if the nominator made an explicit statement that they'll complete the QPQ soon. I did the QPQ review yesterday, so within 3 days. That's pretty soon to me. Wikipedia isn't the only thing I can or do give my attention to. And even when I'm locked in on Wikipedia, there's a lot of things on here that I like to edit. Again, QPQ's done for this one. Let me know if I need to review another one, given the context I gave above. Soulbust (talk) 15:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Please read WP:QPQ:
- QPQ technically completed at Jeep ducking. Also jeez it's been 4 days since the nom, and if I nominated the article today, it would still be within the 7 day period after it was created out of a redirect. If I need to review another nom (since someone got to the Jeep ducking nom very shortly before I did) let me know. Soulbust (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Gil Hovav
- ... that Gil Hovav (pictured) cooked shrimp in orange sauce, because that was served at the Last Supper?
- Source: Laura Blum October 9, 2013). "Israeli Cuisine: Interview with Gil Hovav". ujajcc.org. "Q: Tell us about your new TV show. GH: It's called "Meals That Made History." It's like an interesting history lesson. At the end you ask, ok, so what were they having when history happened? And you cook the food of the meal that took place when it happened. The Last Supper... Q: What were they eating ... at The Last Supper? GH: In the very famous painting of The Last Supper, what were they having on their plates according to Leonardo da Vinci? Shrimp in orange sauce. I think it might be a Tuscan delicacy.....'"
- ALT1: ... that after the 9/11 attack,Gil Hovav (pictured) cooked a breakfast of shakshuka for 500 firefighters working at Ground Zero? Source: Amy Klein (February 5, 2015). "FOOD FOR THOUGHT; Exploring Israel's 'ethnic' cuisine," New Jersey Jewish News, "Hovav told a story of coming to New York after 9/11 to film his show, but instead being recruited to cook breakfast for 500 Ground Zero workers at 5:30 a.m. in conditions he said were more rustic than his days in the Israeli army. After feeding shakshuka to the hungry hordes, the sated workers marveled, “How interesting that in Israel you eat Mexican food for breakfast!” “It’s Moroccan!” Hovav wanted to tell them." and Dan Pine (April 9, 2010). "Funny Israeli TV star wont be using a non-shtick pan when stirring the pot at S.F. restaurant," The Jewish News of Northern California. "... he cooked for 500 firefighters working at the site of the downed World Trade Center shortly after 9/11. Even at that dark time, he wanted to brighten their day with shakshuka, a popular spicy egg dish in Israel.... “I wanted to serve them the ultimate Israeli breakfast,” Hovav recalled. “They said, ‘How interesting.’ For them it was huevos rancheros.”"
- ALT2: ... that Gil Hovav (pictured) once accidentally marched with a sign that said “I'm a proud lesbian!”? Source: Dan Pine (April 9, 2010). "Funny Israeli TV star wont be using a non-shtick pan when stirring the pot at S.F. restaurant," The Jewish News of Northern California. "He once grabbed a sign at a pro-LGBT protest in Jerusalem, chanting slogans as he marched with the sign overhead. It was only later he looked at the sign, which read “I’m a proud lesbian!”
- ALT3: ... that members of Gil Hovav's (pictured) family walked from Yemen to Palestine? Source: Dorothy Kalins (2021). The Kitchen Whisperers: Cooking with the Wisdom of Our Friends. " “My family walked all the way from Yemen to Palestine [in the late nineteenth century]"
- ALT4: ... that Gil Hovav (pictured) reads the announcements at Ben Gurion Airport for free because he was annoyed by previous small grammatical errors? Source: Sapir Peretz (February 15, 2015). "New poster at Terminal 3 at Ben-Gurion Airport: Gil Hovav," Globes. "New announcer at Terminal 3 at Ben-Gurion Airport : Gil Hovav. The next time you fly, you will hear two recorded messages (in Hebrew and English) from the new announcer every half hour: "Hello, this is Gil Hovav, and this is a security message. Please do not leave items unattended"; and "Please note. This is Gil Hovav, the licensed taxi rank is located off the curb. The public is asked not to use unlicensed taxis."" and Florina Pîrjol (July 8, 2016). "Scriitorul Gil Hovav: „Bucătarii din ziua de astăzi sunt adevărate staruri rockm"", Adevărul. "Currently, I'm the voice of Ben Gurion... the airport that bears his name! When you hear that annoying person saying, “Don’t leave your bags unattended,” know it’s my voice. The story is this: I always heard these ads in Hebrew and I noticed that they had grammar mistakes, small mistakes, but this thing was getting me out of the village! So I called the airport and I said, “It’s Israel’s boarding gate, you can’t make language mistakes!” And they said, "Then, come and read the ads," and I told them they were coming. Then they said, “But be careful that we don’t pay you.” And I said, "But who wants money for that? “ So I'm reading the ads now on the Ben Gurion Airport."
- ALT5: ... that Gil Hovav (pictured) met his husband in the army when they were both straight? Source: Ciara Dwyer (March 19, 2017). "Gil Hovav: 'I started cooking the day my grandmother died - I wanted to remember her'," Irish Independent. "I live in Tel Aviv with my partner, Danny. He was my officer in the ... army. We have a 13-year-old daughter, Naomi. As she pointed out when she was four years old, 'Danny was Gilly's officer in the army, and Gilly is Danny's officer in life'..... When I first met Danny, we were both straight."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Remember Monday
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who has also provided the QPQ. The article was translated / written in draft space by User:Relspas.
Schwede66 18:45, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
Norwich Historic District
- ... that some mill workers (example pictured) in a historic district in Virginia gave their ages as fourteen despite appearing much younger?
- Source: "Due to increased scrutiny in the mills, when questioned, children routinely stated they were fourteen to avoid punishment. But the photographs Hine took indicate the children were likely far younger." Talley, Cassandra; Cook, Katie; Candela, Lillian (March 2024). "Norwich HD 2024 NRHP Nomination Final" (PDF). Virginia Department of Historic Resources. Page 43
- ALT1: ... that early residents of a historic district in Virginia were "disowned and neglected by both" the county and nearby city where they resided? Source: "The little settlement lay in the county, but the government of that political division looked upon Norwich as a problem of Roanoke City so the Norwichians were disowned and neglected by both." Barnes, Raymond P. (1968). A History of the City of Roanoke. Commonwealth Press, Inc. Page 242 - No online version but can provide a scan if necessary
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beaver engineered dam in the Czech Republic
- Comment: Image only applies to ALT0
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2025 (UTC).
Found manuscript
- ... that the found manuscript trope, where a fictional work makes a reference to a fictional work of literature, dates as far back as Ancient Egypt? Source: https://www.unz.com/print/SaturdayRev-1947mar29-00007 - although that source does not use the term, it talks about this concept
- ALT1: ... that the found manuscript trope, where a fictional work claims to be based on a discovered source material, has been used by works such as Don Quixote and The Blair Witch Project? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/27081957 for DC, https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=916938 for TBWP
- ALT2: ... that the found manuscript trope evolved into the found footage genre in films and games? Source: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=916938
- ALT3: ... that the found manuscript trope blurs the line between fiction and reality, enhancing narrative credibility by portraying fictional events as historical discoveries? Source: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=916938 , https://www.jstor.org/stable/27081957 , https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/406818/summary
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Margot Dias
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC).
- The newspaper archive I use as the first ref seems to be flagged as unreliable, although I don't understand why (I doubt the cited article is fake). I'll try to replace it but I am not good with finding old newspaper articles - I've asked for help from someone I know is better. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:23, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus sorry for barging in (not doing the review, just wanted to note) the reason it's flagged is because Unz Review is a hardcore white nationalist publication. I don't think this impacts the reliability as they're just republishing it. I've never known them to lie about old articles they host but I wonder if they have the rights to the archives? I mean, they're fairly... literary types, for their ideology, so they very well might, their website has a few assorted publication archives. It's definitely the original article, so if all else fails you could just not link it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:16, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA: Thanks for heads about about the Unz Review (bleeeh). I certainly hope we can switch the link to something less yucky. Considering it's 1947, this may or may not be in public domain... hmmm. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:12, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- I found that it is available in ProQuest, but not through the Wikipedia library. I was bold and switched it anyways. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 23:51, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA: Thanks for heads about about the Unz Review (bleeeh). I certainly hope we can switch the link to something less yucky. Considering it's 1947, this may or may not be in public domain... hmmm. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:12, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus sorry for barging in (not doing the review, just wanted to note) the reason it's flagged is because Unz Review is a hardcore white nationalist publication. I don't think this impacts the reliability as they're just republishing it. I've never known them to lie about old articles they host but I wonder if they have the rights to the archives? I mean, they're fairly... literary types, for their ideology, so they very well might, their website has a few assorted publication archives. It's definitely the original article, so if all else fails you could just not link it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:16, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on March 14
[edit]Battle of Nanggulon
- ... that the grave of a Dutch officer and his dog killed in the Battle of Nanggulon is a designated cultural object in Indonesia? Source: Officer and his dog: [9]; Designated cultural object: [10]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Donald Pearlman
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 03:53, 19 March 2025 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 16:36, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Checked the Brill book on WL and can't find anything about Nanggulon having 200 men on the sourced pages; otherwise everything is sourced and reliable. The J. H. C. and H. V. in the infobox's "Commanders and leaders" are unsourced. AGF ref 1 since it's an abstract for Saleh Djamhari's doctoral dissertation, which in turn works per WP:DISSERTATION.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 2165 B and created five days before nom. Found no other issues except what I pointed out here. Wasn't sure if "heavy" violated NPOV but then the Brill ref cites multiple sources so I cleared it. I'll also revise with an ALT1 - added for clearer syntax - that I'll let the promoter approve if nom doesn't object: ALT1: ... that the grave of a Dutch officer and his dog who were killed in the Battle of Nanggulon is a designated cultural object in Indonesia? @Juxlos: fix these and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Clare Lennart
- ... that the Dutch author of books for children and adults Clare Lennart finally turned to full-time writing after her husband retired and took care of the household?
Drmies (talk) 21:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but wouldn't an "author for books for children and adults" just be an "author"? Juxlos (talk) 10:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Yugoslav corn scandal
- ... that the Yugoslav corn scandal led to the first trial at the European Court of Justice in which the European Economic Community was defrauded with the involvement of a member (Greek) government?
- Source: Brussels officials said the Greek scheme was the first known case in which the 12-nation community has been defrauded with the connivance of a member government. They said they were astonished that when the corn case recently came before the European Court of Justice, Greece refused to send a representative. [11]
- ALT1: ... that ... that the Yugoslav corn scandal was a Greek scheme involving the Greek government to defraud European Economic Community leading to first of its kind trial at the European Court of Justice? Source: Brussels officials said the Greek scheme was the first known case in which the 12-nation community has been defrauded with the connivance of a member government. They said they were astonished that when the corn case recently came before the European Court of Justice, Greece refused to send a representative. [12]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I submit my first DYK after the recent creation of Yugoslav corn scandal article, a Greek scandal that was overshadowed by the infamous Koskotas scandal, but it was no less important given that a politician was imprisoned; a couple of years later he was pardoned.
A.Cython (talk) 02:10, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- n
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The article, while interesting, has WP:NPOV issues. For example, there are multiple descriptions with judgmental opinions (in bold), including: "Athanasopoulos complained with an inflammatory remark" & "Unlike other scandals rocking Papandreou's government, the particular scandal was an embarrassment for Greek diplomats and bankers.." In addition, the hooks have WP: NPOV issues and could rewritten while maintaining the same impact.
★ ▶ To other DYK reviewers, while I'm an experienced Wikipedian, I'm a newbie to this DYK reviewing process. I'd appreciate a 2nd look. ★ — ERcheck (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your input. I rewrote the particular sentences to reduce POV, as pointed out. However, it is not clear why the hooks have issues with POV. Any input would be helpful. Thank you. A.Cython (talk) 23:36, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Table for Six 2
- ... that a wedding scene in Table for Six 2 was filmed at an amusement park?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the main characters in Table for Six 2 were inspired by the sitcom Friends? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the theme song for Table for Six 2 was composed by the lead actress, with the lyrics written by the director? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that actor Ling Man-lung also choreographed the dance sequences in Table for Six 2? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that the filming of Table for Six 2 was conducted secretly, without any public announcements? Source: [5]
- ALT5: ... that Dayo Wong, the lead actor of the first film, did not to return for Table for Six 2 and claimed he wouldn't reveal the reason for 10 years? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Naenano
—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 05:16, 14 March 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ "新春生意續改善 海洋公園本地特色吸客". Economic Digest (in Chinese). 11 March 2024. Retrieved 13 March 2025.
賀歲港產片《飯戲攻心2》衝破3,000萬票房,贏盡口碑,其中一部分在海洋公園取景拍攝,前後為期約一個月。 電影主角張繼聰及鄧麗欣的婚宴,在香港老大街拍攝,兩人情深對話就在海龍王餐廳,亦有部分場景在山上取景。
[The Lunar New Year Hong Kong film Table for Six 2 has broken the 30 million box office mark, receiving rave reviews. Part of the filming took place at Ocean Park, spanning about a month. The wedding banquet of the film's leads, Louis Cheung and Stephy Tang, was shot in the Old Hong Kong area, with their heartfelt conversations taking place at the Neptune's Restaurant, and some scenes were also filmed on The Summit.] - ^ Ng, Sue (5 February 2024). "'Table for Six 2' director Sunny Chan Wing-san on bringing love to the table with his latest Lunar New Year movie". South China Morning Post. Retrieved 13 March 2025.
Chan shared that his inspiration for writing this series came from the hit American sitcom, Friends, which follows the everyday lives of six friends in New York City. "I am a fan of the show, and I wanted to challenge myself to write a story about a family of six," he explained.
- ^ "飯戲攻心2|王菀之親自操刀作曲兼主唱 歌曲竟成陳詠燊家中禁歌". am730 (in Chinese). 31 January 2024. Retrieved 12 March 2025.
今日(31日)電影歌曲《我們曾經白頭到老》正式推出,歌曲由Ivana主唱兼作曲,Sunny親自填詞,並由著名音樂人馮翰銘監製。
[Today (31st), the film's theme song "I Love You So Much" was officially released, sung and composed by Ivana [Wong], with lyrics written by Sunny [Chan], and produced by veteran musician Alexander Fung.] - ^ 吳霆俊 (2 February 2024). "《飯戲攻心2》 導演陳詠燊為港人送上暖意". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Retrieved 13 March 2025.
陳詠燊力讚凌文龍敬業,因他不但費盡心思醜化自己,更會為了短短一分鐘的舞蹈演出花兩三日排舞。「他度了好多嘢,犧牲好多其他演員不願意做的事,只為套戲好。」
[Sunny Chan praised Ling Man-lung's dedication, noting that he not only went to great lengths to make himself look unappealing, but also spent two to three days choreographing for the brief one-minute dance sequence. "He put in a lot of effort in the creative process and sacrificed many things that other actors were unwilling to do, all for the sake of the film."] - ^ 許育民 (24 August 2023). "《飯戲攻心》傳第二集已拍攝中 黃子華會由主角轉為客串演出?". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 13 March 2025.
不過《香港01》最近收到消息,有指名為《飯戲攻心2》的電影已經暗中進行拍攝,而主角人選亦有所變動。《香港01》向導演陳詠燊查詢時未有直接回覆,而電影宣傳方面,則表示未有任何相關資訊提供
[However, HK01 recently learned from an exclusive source that filming for a film titled Table for Six 2 has been underway in secret, and there have been changes to the lead roles. When HK01 inquired with director Sunny Chan, he did not respond directly; while the film's promotional team stated that no related information is available at the moment.] - ^ 李國樑 (11 November 2024). "飯戲攻心2|黃子華透露未能接拍《飯戲攻心2》原因 坦言入娛樂圈以來最難受的事". U Lifestyle (in Chinese). Retrieved 13 March 2025.
至於《飯戲攻心》,黃子華始終沒有正面回應問題,但就補充了多一個事實︰「黃子華十年內將不會講關於《飯戲攻心》的問題」可見事態非常嚴重,子華亦相當嚴肅地表示︰「我只能夠講兩句,我係想拍續集嘅。因為某啲原因,我唔可以拍,我係想拍嘅。事實上我拍唔到呢個續集,可以講係我入娛樂圈以嚟最難受嘅事。」
[5. As for Table for Six, Dayo Wong has not directly responded to the questions but added one fact: "Dayo Wong will not talk about the problems [he encountered] for Table for Six for the next ten years." This indicates that the situation is quite serious, and Wong also seriously stated, "I can only say a few words: I want to return in the sequel. Due to certain reasons, I cannot make it. I want to make it. In fact, not being able to make this sequel is one of the most difficult decisions I have had since entering the entertainment industry."]
Articles created/expanded on March 15
[edit]Morgpie
- ... that Twitch streamer Morgpie went viral for using her buttocks as a green screen?
- Source: The Verge
- ALT1: ... that Morgpie was banned by Twitch after hosting a "topless" charity stream for Doctors without Borders? Source: TechCrunch
- ALT2: ... that Morgpie was Pornhub's "Top Squirting Performer" in 2023, before later going "topless" and using her buttocks as a green screen on Twitch streams? Source: XBIZ; The Verge
- ALT3: ... that Morgpie influenced Twitch trends in which content creators would go "topless" on stream and censor themselves with black bars? Source: Forbes
- ALT4: ... that Morgpie went viral on Twitch after projecting gameplay of Fortnite using a green screen overlaid on her buttocks? Source: The Verge
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Terraria
- Comment: I think the article's content provides a lot of different routes to go. QPQ to be done soon.
Soulbust (talk) 20:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- @Soulbust: Not a review, but 'butt' is probably too colloquial (I'm using 'buttocks' at FUFN (Fuck You for Now)). There are a lot of sources that are not good for sensitive BLP content; WP:FORBES and WP:TECHCRUNCH are probably alright, but what makes WP:DAILYDOT (and its derivative Passionfruit), and WP:KOTAKU, and the Indy100 reliable? Also, QPQ needs doing.--Launchballer 12:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I use buttocks in the article, though figured the DYK hook could be a bit more relaxed or colloquial. It's not a hill I feel any need to die on though, so I've tweaked the hooks to use buttocks instead.
- Forbes, highlighted in green to denote its general reliability is definitely alright here as a source here, especially since it's written by staff and not a contributor (a distinction noted at WP:VG/RS).
- TechCrunch sources also check out since both the ones used in the article are written by Morgan Sung. Her bio on the site lists her as a senior writer, meaning her pieces aren't for a personal blog. The TechCrunch listing you linked says
Careful consideration should be given to whether a piece is written by staff or as a part of their blog
, which reads to me as similar or analogous to the staff/contributor distinction for Forbes pieces. - The Daily Dot is listed as reliable at WP:VG/RS, and the WP:RSP link you provided says it
is considered fine for citing non-contentious claims of fact.
I've tweaked the Morgpie article since reading your message here to use the source 3 total times,the first 2 of which, are definitely non-contentious(here I'm using it in the "Twitch metas" section to cite that meta is Twitch community lingoand that she used the green screen in a Fortnite stream; that this latter point inspired other streamers is also being sourced by the Daily Dot citation. I don't view that as contentious, but in the off-chance it is, there is another source present for that).The time I use the source in the "Reception and influence" section is in line with the WP:DAILYDOT blurb listing about followingcommunity consensus that attribution should be used in topics where the source is known to be biased
. Since I'm citing the writer's opinion on Morgpie, I do properly attribute her. The writer's bio lists her as the Deputy Editor of Passionfruit. There hasn't been WP:VG/RS or WP:RSP discussion on Passionfruit but I believe since it is under Daily Dot, all the rules about Daily Dot here apply. I had used the source twice in the Reception and influence section to first cite that Twitch received criticism for policy updates and then cite exactly what that criticism is (unfair application of the policy updates to only female-presenting streamers). I believe this is fine for inclusion and I just tweaked the firs time I used it to be in line with the attribution clause from before or to just replace the source with another one; I replaced the second usage with Sung, so that any attribution to Passionfruit or the specific author wouldn't make the sentence clunky. - The Kotaku source has been removed and replaced both on the article and in this DYK nom's hook sourcing.
- Indy100 is a sister site of The Independent, (relevant link here is WP:THEINDEPENDENT). It's highlighted in green as generally reliable at WP:RSP. I do note that the entry says
some editors advise caution for articles published after
the publication went fully online in 2016. I also couldn't find any assessment or deep-dive discussion on Indy100 specifically. There is a comment here from just over a year ago in March 2024 that calls ita tabloidy clickbaity spinoff of The Independent
. I have removed the Indy100 source to err on the side of caution here, and while I don't necessarily think it would be assessed as reliable, I think a proper discussion on it is warranted. - Thanks for the feedback, I've made some further edits to the article that I think strengthened it considerably. And hopefully the addressing of the sourcing concerns have been helpful in regards to this article's DYK viability. Will do QPQ soon. Soulbust (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've stricken out some out-of-date info that I forgot to make up-to-date as I was in real-time editing along with my editing of the actual article. The Daily Dot source is used 3 total times still: the one time in the Twitch metas section to cite the meta lingo. Then twice, in the reception to cite that Morgpie influenced copycat streamers and then the attribution to the writer's opinion. The copycat streamer thing should be fine to be cited by this source, but I can look to adjust that if there is any objection to it. Soulbust (talk) 13:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- QPQ completed at Terraria Soulbust (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've stricken out some out-of-date info that I forgot to make up-to-date as I was in real-time editing along with my editing of the actual article. The Daily Dot source is used 3 total times still: the one time in the Twitch metas section to cite the meta lingo. Then twice, in the reception to cite that Morgpie influenced copycat streamers and then the attribution to the writer's opinion. The copycat streamer thing should be fine to be cited by this source, but I can look to adjust that if there is any objection to it. Soulbust (talk) 13:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Transgender health care misinformation
- ... that over 20 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The DYK timed out as the article underwent a GAR - a GA3 and the GAR found keep so relisting with the alt discussed at Template:Did you know nominations/Transgender health care misinformation.
I also second Launchballer's idea that it be used for Transgender Day Of Visibility (March 31). Courtesy pings to @Starship.paint, Narutolovehinata5, SL93, and Launchballer:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: This is a great hook, and I find it interesting. A few initial concerns:
- The hook fact is sourced to a press release from the Endocrine Society, which means it is a self-published expert primary source.
- A close reading of the press release indicates that the exact wording is slightly different from the hook. It says: "Although the scientific landscape has not changed significantly, misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care."
- The hook fact should adhere as close as possible to the source. I wonder if you can find other secondary sources to support the current wording of the hook or if you can rewrite it for parity. Attribution might also be needed.
- I like the hook image, but the caption is too long, and the legend (key) is too small. I wonder if there is a way to convey this info in a brief caption
- More later. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
- 1)
which means it is a self-published expert primary source
- I think this characterization is innacurate. Self-published refers to things like Twitter and Medium, not statements from international medical organizations. Per WP:MEDORG/WP:MEDASSESS it's a good source and per WP:MEDDEFA primary source is one in which the authors directly participated in the research and documented their personal experiences
whileA secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources to provide an overview of current understanding of the topic, to make recommendations, or to combine results of several studies. Examples include ... medical guidelines or position statements published by major health organizations
so this is secondary. - 2) The wording was based on discussions with Starship.paint for the last DYK nom - I'm open to changing it but unsure how. The source later says
Transgender and gender-diverse teenagers, their parents, and physicians should be able to determine the appropriate course of treatment. Banning evidence-based medical care based on misinformation takes away the ability of parents and patients to make informed decisions.
The Endocrine Society's been consistent with saying these bans are based on misinfo, in 2023 sayingDue to widespread misinformation about medical care for transgender and gender-diverse teens, 18 states have passed laws or instituted policies banning gender-affirming care. ... Some policies are even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care. These policies do not reflect the research landscape.
[13] The reason the hook says trans healthcare misinfo is "one factor" is SP argued they were not taking the position these bans are always based on misinfo (I argued they were). I suggested citing the ES to say such bans are based on misinfo and another source to say how many bans exist currently, but SP said this would be SYNTH. Your call how to best reword this! - 3) Per 2 I'm down to change the wording and per 1 I don't think attribution is needed. Perhaps something like
U.S. states have banned gender-affirming care for minors based on transgender health care misinformation and over 20 states have implemented such bans
? - 4) Thanks, made it myself! Could the caption be
US state laws on trans healthcare access for youth with bans marked in shades of red and shield laws marked in blue
orUS state laws on trans healthcare access for youth - most restrictive (dark red) to most protected (dark blue)
?
- 1)
- Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[14][15][16][17] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[18][19] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
New reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Xavier Molyneux
- ... that actor Xavier Molyneux was a contestant on the reality television series Big Brother during the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic in Australia?
- ALT1: ... that actor Xavier Molyneux worked as an event paramedic in-between acting roles? Source: [22][23], plus the offline source in Inside Soap. No. 2. (Hearst Magazines UK). 13–19 January 2024. p. 48.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daniel A. Gilbert
Rain the 1 22:23, 15 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was nominated within 7 days of creation and has over 1,500 characters in prose. Article is properly cited. Hook is interesting and properly cited. QPQ is done. Earwig picked up an unlikely violation of 17.4%, but the line about John Raftopoulos is too closely paraphrased to the source. I also have concerns about the neutrality of the article as it discusses the plot and production of the series that the subject is involved in, but is not necessarily about the subject himself. lullabying (talk) 23:26, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also, forgot to mention this: ALT1 seems to be a better hook than the ALT0. lullabying (talk) 23:30, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have addressed the the concerns about John Raftopoulos, I agree it was too close to the source but I believed the source said it best short of a quotation. I have changed it. In regards to your concerns about neutrality - The article discusses key points in a concise manner about the roles the actor secured. I really do not think they they spill over into too much into the realms of in-universe fiction. A concise run-down of the show's plot if the corresponding role was significant and an explanation of the role is generally accepted. For the most part I kept it toned down to key events relevant to Molyneux himself. If you have any suggestions I am happy to work with you on this.Rain the 1 23:47, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- By talking in depth about what news articles and publicists have said about his casting in various projects, it comes off as WP:PROMOTION. lullabying (talk) 20:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying:Hey. I have cut some statements from the article and it sticks more to the core facts. Is it okay now?Rain the 1 19:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for making the edits. I am still not seeing the importance of including how he cried upon receiving a role and detailed descriptions of the roles/plots of the projects he has appeared in. lullabying (talk) 04:14, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying:Hey. I have cut some statements from the article and it sticks more to the core facts. Is it okay now?Rain the 1 19:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also, forgot to mention this: ALT1 seems to be a better hook than the ALT0. lullabying (talk) 23:30, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying:No worries. I have removed the part about him crying and removed sourced content about his Byron role. Would you consider it passable for DYK credit now?Rain the 1 20:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 16
[edit]Barbeque Nation
- ... that an Indian restaurant chain has over 800 combinations of kulfi flavours, toppings, and sauces?
- Source: [24]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Previously nominated in 2012, which was rejected, and the article was eventually deleted due to its promotional tone (which is why there is a 2 in this page).
TNM101 (chat) 17:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
Sasradilaga rebellion
- ... that the Sasradilaga rebellion in 1827-1828 devastated the Javanese town of Rajekwesi, causing it to be rebuilt under the new name of Bojonegoro? Source: [25]; CTRL+F "Sosrodilogo".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Godfrey Hattenbach
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 04:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
Arrow-class oil tanker

- ... that during World War II, the name of an Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government to, "avoid any unfortunate association of ideas"?
- Source:
"In February 1942, after Pearl Harbor, Japan Arrow was renamed American Arrow, to avoid any unfortunate association of ideas." https://www.aukevisser.nl/mobil/id636.htm
- Reviewed:
Created by PhoenixCaelestis (talk) and GGOTCC (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 11:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
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- Nearest two citations are several sentences away, and neither seem to contain this quote. Also, the quote itself isn't in the article, though a close paraphrase is.
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Overall: Overall a well-done article, and the hook citation issue can presumably be fixed quickly, but I am seriously concerned about whether "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site" is an WP:RS. A self-published source like would be acceptable if they were a subject matter expert, but I can't find any evidence of that. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
2024 Men's T20 World Cup
- ... that India became the first team to win the T20 World Cup undefeated throughout the tournament in 2024? Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/cricket/news/india-history-first-ever-team-win-t20-cricket-world-cup-undefeated/f3fed7d806c1ff72a325c807
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Vestrian24Bio 04:26, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
Alan MacMasters hoax
- ... that a British student once created a Wikipedia article falsely claiming his friend had invented the toaster?
- Reviewed:
🐝 B33net 🐝 22:08, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- I'll review this. It's hilarious that my local museum (Hagley) once wrote about this joke as fact. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: @B33net: QPQ pending. I'm a little unsure of Wikipediocracy as a source, but since the GA reviewer allowed it I guess it might be okay. While the current hook is fine, I think better hooks could be written about the fake inventor of the toaster, no? E.g. ... that Alan MacMasters was not the inventor of the toaster? / ... that the fictitious subject of a hoax Wikipedia article was a nominee to be on an English £50 note? / ... that Scottish Government-funded organizations cited a hoax Wikipedia article as evidence of how an independent Scotland could succeed? / ... that newspapers, encyclopedias, government agencies and a U.S. museum perpetuated the fictitious subject of a hoax Wikipedia article as the inventor of the toaster? Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:20, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think we should change it to
that the fictitious subject of a hoax Wikipedia article was a nominee to be on an English £50 note?
. It’s more interesting than the current hook. I will also get a QPQ done soon. 🐝 B33net 🐝 1:24, 16 March 2025 (UTC) - I did a QPQ at Template:Did you know nominations/Wampanoag-class frigate 🐝 B33net 🐝 10:33, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 17
[edit]Articles created/expanded on March 18
[edit]WKOZ
- ... that Cy Bahakel credited his experience as salesman and founder of a Mississippi radio station with teaching him business fundamentals? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-charlotte-news-turners-brash-bahak/84064663/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gannon Golden Knights football, 1949–1950
- Comment: AfD rescue
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- (not a full review)
AfD hasn't closed yet charlotte 👸♥ 18:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- A qpq has been done, it long/new enough. Earwig doesn’t flag any problems, I do worry the hook does require you to know who Clyde Bakahel is, also a bit of bureaucracy is I belive the AFD will close keep but I would rather wait until then to approve it Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Electoral history of Joe Biden
- ... that Unites States President Joe Biden began his political career by unseating an incumbent County Councilman?
- ALT1: ... that all of Joe Biden's senatorial campaigns were managed by his sister? Source: https://www.vogue.com/article/meet-the-joe-biden-whisperer-his-sister-valerie-biden-owens
- ALT2: ... that Joe Biden was elected to the United States Senate seven times between 1972 and 2008? Source: https://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/biden-says-goodbye-to-the-senate-017514
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lope Martín
- Comment: My third Joe Biden nomination, something something liberal bias
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- Hey, OlifanofmrTennant! I'm planning on reviewing this nom, but I had a rules question first that I've posted to WT:DYK – see here. Hopefully that gets cleared up and I can do the rest of the review! :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 19:28, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 19
[edit]Antennacanthopodia
- ... that velvet worms had an ancient relative with two pairs of antennae?
- Source: Ou et al.
- Reviewed:
RenaMoonn (talk) 20:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC).
Vladimir Herța
- ... that the villa (pictured) of a former street musician was used for Chișinău's high-society gatherings before the Russian Revolution?
- Source: Iurie Colesnic, "Istoria noastră. Vladimir Hertza, adept al Unirii și primar de Chișinău", in Funcționarul Public, Issue 20/2014, p. 9: După ce s-a căsătorit, fără învoirea tatălui său, tânărul a dus în Italia o viaţă de cântăreţ ambulant. ("After he got married, without his father's approval, the young man [Herța] established himself in Italy as a street musician.") And "Casa Hertza, victimă a nepăsării autorităților", in Adevărul Moldova, 13 January 2012: Vila de vară a lui Vladimir Hertza, fost primar de Chişinău, era la începutul secolului trecut locul de întâlnire al nobililor. Aici se puneau la cale afaceri şi se consumau scene romantice dintre cuconaşi şi cuconiţe, în timpul balurilor organizate de proprietar. ("The summer villa of Vladimir Hertza, former mayor of Chișinău, was at the beginning of the last century a meeting place of the nobility. It was here that business transactions were carried out, and that romantic scenes could be consumed between young gentlemen and ladies, during balls organized by the owner.")
- ALT1: ... that Vladimir Herța's Chișinău villa (pictured) was also where, in 1917, he formed a coalition against Bessarabia's annexation by Ukraine? Source: George Tofan, "Cum s-a alcătuit Sfatul Țării", in Transilvania, Issues 3–4/2008, p. 5: prin luna lui iulie, când, aşa din senin, a venit la Zemstva gubernială a Basarabiei o telegramă de la Rada ucraineană din Kiev, în care se cerea comisarului gubernial al Basarabiei să ia parte la sfatul comisarilor ucraineni - ceea ce însemna că Rada socoteşte Basarabia ca o parte a Ucrainei, mai mulţi fruntaşi din Partidul Naţional, precum şi din alte organizaţii din Chişinău, au simţit că a sosit vremea ca ţara să-şi spună pe faţă dorinţele şi să purceadă la înfăptuirea lor. Ideea Sfatului Ţării atunci s-a pus într-o formă mai concretă. S-au ţinut în casa dlui Vladimir Herţa câteva consfătuiri la care au luat parte reprezentanţii tuturor naţionalităţilor şi s-a hotărât alcătuirea Sfatului Ţării, având să fie reprezentată în el fiecare naţionalitate în proporţia procentului ei de locuitori (moldovenii 70%). ("around July [1917], when a telegram from the Ukrainian Rada in Kiev was suddenly received by Bessarabia's gubernial zemstvo, with demands that that the gubernial commissar of Bessarabia should take part in the council of Ukrainian commissars - meaning that the Rada saw Bessarabia as a part of the Ukraine - several leaders of the National Party, as well as of other organizations in Chișinău, felt that the time had arrived for that land to make its wishes clear, and then that it should proceed to materialize them. Several meetings were held in Mr Vladimir Herța's home, joined by representatives of all nationalities, and a decision was made to establish Sfatul Țării, in which all nationalities would be represented in proportion to their share of the population (with Moldavians at 70%).")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Seraglio of Baabda
- Comment: I realize that it is a tad frowned upon to combine sources for the same hook, but it is by no means unprecedented.
Dahn (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2025 (UTC).
Oval Office Swedish ivy

- ... that no one knows where the Oval Office Swedish ivy (pictured) came from?
- ALT1: ... that propagations of the Oval Office Swedish ivy (pictured) are a common gift to White House staffers? Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2025/03/18/oval-office-swedish-ivy-obama-plant-trump-missing-kennedy-gold-mantel/
- ALT2: ... that Donald Trump replaced the Oval Office Swedish ivy (pictured) with a collection of gold objects? Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2025/03/18/oval-office-swedish-ivy-obama-plant-trump-missing-kennedy-gold-mantel/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mały Brzostek
🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 02:39, 20 March 2025 (UTC).
Robert Van Damme
- ... that Robert Van Damme played for the Czech ice hockey team LHK Jestřábi Prostějov before pursing a career in gay pornography?
- Source: 1
- Reviewed: Rita (chimpanzee)
Morgan695 (talk) 23:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC).
- Don't really think the mention of the ice hockey team is all that important. How about:
- ALT1 ... that Robert Van Damme played ice hockey professionally before pursing a career in gay pornography?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no problem with that. Morgan695 (talk) 21:51, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Sport in the Principality of Sealand
- ... that a territory smaller than a football field is home to multiple football teams?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jeep ducking
- Comment: I am open to suggestions for alt hooks if any good ones can be thought of.
ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2025 (UTC).
tagged for merging. charlotte 👸♥ 20:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 20
[edit]Tribuna da Imprensa
- ... that the Brazilian newspaper Tribuna da Imprensa was bombed six times in 1981 by a far-right group opposed to redemocratization?
- Source: https://acervo.oglobo.globo.com/fatos-historicos/no-fim-da-ditadura-carta-bomba-explodiu-na-oab-no-rio-matando-secretaria-9704297 "Em 1980, ninguém foi punido pelo atentado: autoria é atribuída a grupos de direita contra a redemocratização, que também detonaram 6 bombas na ‘Tribuna da Imprensa’ em 1981"
- ALT1: ... that Tribuna da Imprensa was shut down in 2001 after losing a lawsuit over an article that referred to a judge as "PC Salomão"? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20010526231357/https://www.observatoriodaimprensa.com.br/artigos/iq090520013.htm "O pedido foi feito pelo desembargador Paulo César Salomão, em razão do não pagamento de uma indenização por danos morais decorrente de uma ação que impetrara contra o jornal. Ele se sentira atingido por um artigo assinado pelo economista Romero da Costa Machado - que não pertencia aos quadros da Tribuna - publicado em 1994, sob o título ‘O crime ao amparo da lei’, no qual é chamado de ‘PC Salomão’."
- ALT2: ... that journalist Hélio Fernandes took over Tribuna da Imprensa in 1962 without paying for it, instead assuming its debts? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20231207073518/https://www.tribuna.com.br/historia-do-jornal/ "No ano seguinte, o jornalista Hélio Fernandes (segundo o próprio sem gastar um centavo), assumiu o ativo e o passivo do jornal."
- Reviewed:
Cattos💭 23:42, 20 March 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 21
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